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Offline GreenFaith1819

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I'll always love Doc Rivers and be thankful for his time in Boston. We had a GREAT run while he was here.

I haven't agreed with some things said...the "he said, she said" stuff....but for the most part I'll always look back fondly on his time in BOS.

Doc Rivers was the unsung MVP of that 2008 championship...he out-coached one of the greatest coaches in that crucial game 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpxtiQZiK2c

It was none other than Doc Rivers that willed that team in Game 4.

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Kevin Love is no Kevin Garnett.

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Kevin Love is no Kevin Garnett.

Jared Sullinger/Kelly Olynyk's no Al Jefferson
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Kevin Love is no Kevin Garnett.

While that may be true, Kevin Garnett was at the very tail end of his prime. Kevin Love is entering his prime right now.

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Kevin Love is no Kevin Garnett.

While that may be true, Kevin Garnett was at the very tail end of his prime. Kevin Love is entering his prime right now.

Yeah this is true.  He can be really good for a while.  It's a perfect time to get him.

IMO KG is the greatest PF of all time so yeah I don't take that lightly.
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Kevin Love is no Kevin Garnett.

if you could turn Sully, Olynyk or even both into Love you do it.

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So fans who wanted to keep Jefferson and Green "know the game"? That's hilarious.

thats what i said to myself when i read it, lol

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I'll always love Doc Rivers and be thankful for his time in Boston. We had a GREAT run while he was here.

I haven't agreed with some things said...the "he said, she said" stuff....but for the most part I'll always look back fondly on his time in BOS.

Doc Rivers was the unsung MVP of that 2008 championship...he out-coached one of the greatest coaches in that crucial game 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpxtiQZiK2c

It was none other than Doc Rivers that willed that team in Game 4.

LOL. Didn't you see This doing the real coaching? Three HOFers beat a team made up of Luke Walton Farmar Vucevic Radamonovich lol we should have swept that team.

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I'll always love Doc Rivers and be thankful for his time in Boston. We had a GREAT run while he was here.

I haven't agreed with some things said...the "he said, she said" stuff....but for the most part I'll always look back fondly on his time in BOS.

Doc Rivers was the unsung MVP of that 2008 championship...he out-coached one of the greatest coaches in that crucial game 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpxtiQZiK2c

It was none other than Doc Rivers that willed that team in Game 4.

LOL. Didn't you see This doing the real coaching? Three HOFers beat a team made up of Luke Walton Farmar Vucevic Radamonovich lol we should have swept that team.

He made the decision to go small with Posey and it paid dividends.  Phil Jackson on the other hand didn't do so great of a job.

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I'm an idealist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone on that 08 team - Ray, Doc...Sam Cassell, Pollard, Scal...all have lifelong love from me. It was an amazing run.

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I'm an idealist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone on that 08 team - Ray, Doc...Sam Cassell, Pollard, Scal...all have lifelong love from me. It was an amazing run.

Pruitt?  Big Baby?
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I'm an idealist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone on that 08 team - Ray, Doc...Sam Cassell, Pollard, Scal...all have lifelong love from me. It was an amazing run.

Pruitt?  Big Baby?
didn't they contribute during the run?

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I remember the heartburn over Big Al. It was legitimate... the feeling was that in 5 years, Big Al would be the better player, and probably for another 5+ years after that. Turns out Al has been very good but maybe not quite reached his ceiling as a player. But still, for ~5 seasons KG was the better player. For around a year now, that is no longer the case. Of course the problem with that thinking, is during that time KG was arguably the best player on a championship contending team, and almost nobody regrets having that window instead of a long term view of Big Al.

Gerald Green... maybe I'm working with hindsight here, but I think there were a lot more people in "the know" who saw him as a sell high opportunity, before he was labeled a bust.

As for Doc's comments, I think the point about the fans is clear if you take the whole thing in context. Boston fans show up to root for a last place team and fall in love with the young players. Most cities dwindle during the lean years, and only the hardcore fans really follow the prospects that closely. But as a whole, Boston is pretty darn special. There are not 5 fan bases on the planet that would stand and chant for their team in a playoff loss, aware that it might be goodbye. That's poignant stuff for a player/coach.

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I'm an idealist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone on that 08 team - Ray, Doc...Sam Cassell, Pollard, Scal...all have lifelong love from me. It was an amazing run.

Pruitt?  Big Baby?
didn't they contribute during the run?

Big Baby definitely did. I remember a big Powe vs. BBD debate going on during that year on the boards. He got some playoff time from my recollection. Pruitt...not so much. Okay, Pruitt is the only one then.

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Doc was great during the Big Three Era. He was very much made in the same mold as the Phil Jackson, Larry Bird, K.C. Jones types in the sense he was great for a contending team and juggling egos, but not the greatest for a rebuild. He also handled the Boston limelight quite well--not something to be underrated in this town.

I also think he is way overly vilified by this board for "not playing young players." Time and again we heard this while people conveniently ignored that a) he played guys like Rondo, Perk, BBD, and Powe and b) there isn't one example of a youngster who miraculously blossomed after leaving the dark clutches of Doc. Instead, we had the likes of Bill Walker, JaJuan Johnson, and J.R. Giddens who simply weren't NBA caliber players.

The only thing that annoys me now is the victim card he is pulling with the Clippers. Doc made an inherently selfish decision to jump ship to LA because he knew it would be a better situation for him. And I'm ok with that. But he did it fully aware he was going to work for an owner that had a history of racism and mismanagement. He ultimately decided that the potential gain was worth the risk. And that's perfectly acceptable to do. Many people have made similar decisions.

But he should stop acting so shocked and upset and victimized by the whole Sterling situation. If he was really that against working for someone like Sterling, he should have stayed in Boston where he had a stellar ownership/management team.

TP for this.  Saved me a lot of typing.

Doc was phenomenal (to steal his favorite adjective) here but I'm happy with Stevens now in our situation.

Doc went to a very talented team but went to play for a noted racist.  It just happened to blow up when he was there.  Everyone in the NBA knew about it.

But if he stays there long term I think the team will be better off now more than ever.  The team was bad under Sterling for a reason.   New ownership could be a great thing there.



Not sure what jumps out at me more:

The fact that Doc has fond memories of Boston or the fact that there were people actually going up to him, pleading with him for the Celts to NOT trade Al Jefferson and Gerald Green? ???

Why wouldn't Doc have fond memories of Boston?

No reason why he wouldn't.

To me, that wasn't the story of the article.

The story of the article was that there were people who actually didn't want to see the KG trade, similarly to how there's people now who don't want to see the Love trade happen.

I am wondering if this strange attachment to unproven younger players is a Boston thing or if it goes on in every major sports city.

It's every city.

I feel like it's going away more now though, with so many fans being arm chair GMs these days. 

We see a lot of demand to trade certain players on the team (now mostly with by far our best player and long tenured player and former champion AND captain)... so yeah it can go either way.

An important factor, I believe, is where the player is at in development and potential.  For example, Gerald Green was still a guy who could figure it out and seemingly be an All Star (did, to an extent, like this season... so took a while and isn't an All Star anyways).  Jefferson was playing defense away from being one of the leagues major stars too (he also never did that).

With guys like Sully and Olynyk and Smart it could be like that.  Especially, I think, if the rebuild takes a while and we get attached watching them grow.

doc shoulda had 3 titles if he was such a great coach. he blew it in 2010 and underachieved in 2011.
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