Smart/Young are they trade chips or building blocks?

[manl_lui]

so I also like the fact that after Bradley blocked Wade 2 years ago, everyone was raving how a backcourt of Rondo and Bradley is the future!

And yet, Smart and Rondo doesn't make any sense, so drafting Smart = Rondo gone...sigh

[aingeforthree]

Building blocks for sure.

20 & 18 yrs old. Both have huge upside. Both already with great nba size for their positions.

Develop them now & let them get the experience needed to succeed.

[D.o.s.]

I am kind of shocked that Ainge drafted a pair of guards taller than 6'2.

[Jiri Welsch]

I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.

Amazing to write with such conviction and yet be so i'll informed.  By all accounts Smart's coaches and teammates have loved working with him.  Is he an intense player on the court? Yup.  He is the opposite of Jeff Green.  He had two incidents in his two years at Ok St.  One was the incident in which he shoved a fan, a fan notorious for pushing the line who apologized for his actions much like Smart apologized for his own.  And the other incident?  Smart kicked a chair on the bench. Nothing in regards to coaching or being selfish has ever been reported..in fact only the opposite.

Now how to you feel about a PG who constantly battles with his college coach, is drafted into the NBA and makes great growth.  In a meeting his performance is critiqued so he throws his drink against wall and storms out.  He constantly questions the coaches moves and battle with his hall of fame teammates, trying to undermine one by pushing for his replacement to get time over him.  Oh yeah, and he only makes effort in half of the games. 

I love Rondo but some these comments about Smart are just ridiculous.

You believe what you want to believe and disregard the rest. You will see soon enough ...

So let me get this straight: You're banking on him misbehaving on the Celtics because there were "problems" at Oklahoma State that aren't substantiated.

And you're accusing him of believing what he wants and disregarding the rest.

Just trying to parse this out.

[nacceltic]

Rondo and Smart can work together...Marcus Smart is a better/bigger version of Avery Bradley with the ability to play the point.

I'm one of the biggest Marcus Smart fans in this forum, I'm sure, but let's not get wrapped up in the SportsCenter 24/7/365 over saturation of every possible story news cycle.  Smart screwed up when he pushed the fan...Even if the fan crossed the line with a racist comment, you just can't do what he did...I understand why he did it, but you can't do it. With that established, EVERYTHING said about the kid before and after that incident has been nothing but praise...

I love how some people look at that ugly incident as the end all be all, but don't give any credit to how the kid handled it at the time and how he came back and led that team to the NCAA Tournament. OK State was dead in the water without Smart and became one of the hottest teams in the country when he came back from that suspension.

I'd rather have a kid who cares so much that you have to settle him down, than a kid who you need to constantly poke and prod to get consistency out of. Smart will work tirelessly on his game and that's why he will improve. I think he's a stud.

Young, I think he has all the potential in the world. He has some of the finest shooting mechanics that I've seen in the college game in quite some time. If he played on a team that had less talent than Kentucky and wasn't hurt in a car accident that stopped him from working out for some teams, he would have been a surefire top-10 pick. He has the length and athleticism to be at least a good defender, if not very good. That will come down to his desire. Offensively, I think he's a can't miss prospect.

I'd like to keep these two for the future, but I admit it'd be tough to do so if Love was made available...I could part with Young, but it'd be near impossible for me to say goodbye to Smart as a fan.  I believe Smart & Young are legit 10-year NBA starters, if healthy.

People overlooked this draft b/c of the visions of Kevin Love prancing in their heads...Looking back 2-3 years from now, I think many C's fans will understand how well their team did on draft night.

[D.o.s.]

I put a lot of stock into a player's temperament and attitude, too.

And that's precisely why if Smart works out, Stevens is a miracle worker. Whether you want to admit it or not, there were problems at Oklahoma State - which is basically leaderless on the coaching staff - and Brad Stevens has his work cut out for him.

Amazing to write with such conviction and yet be so i'll informed.  By all accounts Smart's coaches and teammates have loved working with him.  Is he an intense player on the court? Yup.  He is the opposite of Jeff Green.  He had two incidents in his two years at Ok St.  One was the incident in which he shoved a fan, a fan notorious for pushing the line who apologized for his actions much like Smart apologized for his own.  And the other incident?  Smart kicked a chair on the bench. Nothing in regards to coaching or being selfish has ever been reported..in fact only the opposite.

Now how to you feel about a PG who constantly battles with his college coach, is drafted into the NBA and makes great growth.  In a meeting his performance is critiqued so he throws his drink against wall and storms out.  He constantly questions the coaches moves and battle with his hall of fame teammates, trying to undermine one by pushing for his replacement to get time over him.  Oh yeah, and he only makes effort in half of the games. 

I love Rondo but some these comments about Smart are just ridiculous.

You believe what you want to believe and disregard the rest. You will see soon enough ...

So let me get this straight: You're banking on him misbehaving on the Celtics because there were "problems" at Oklahoma State that aren't substantiated.

And you're accusing him of believing what he wants and disregarding the rest.

Just trying to parse this out.

 

He also talked to "a former OKC State player,"  I believe.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Rondo is the trade chip.

We aren't going to pay him max money.

very possible. have to see how it plays out.

[LarBrd33]

Everyone on the team is a trade chip.

Ainge would still move Rondo for the right package.  I'm sure he'd still move Smart + Young + Sully + Oly + picks for Kevin Love. 

[BballTim]

Everyone on the team is a trade chip.

Ainge would still move Rondo for the right package.  I'm sure he'd still move Smart + Young + Sully + Oly + picks for Kevin Love.

  Everyone on the team's been a trade chip since Danny showed up. Whether Smart and Young stay is based solely on what other teams offer for them.

[dmopower]

I think Surferdad hit it on the head.  Backcourt of the future.  Rondo is gone and these two will be developing chemistry and both have the skillsets to play well together.  I expect more to happen once Danny and others can sign then trade players.  The other shoe is still on it's way down.  Hang on guys it's comming.