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James Young
« on: March 05, 2014, 12:15:33 PM »

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Anybody got any info on this kid. NBAdraft.net compares him to Michael Redd!?!?! wich to me sounds great, but have him going in the early 20's.

He is a fr. at Kentucky averaging 14 pts and 32% from 3.....which isnt bad considering i haven't heard much bout the kid......altho he just went 1-10 beyond 3 the other night lol



thoughts....could be a good Atl/Brklyn pick or if we trade down or something?

Re: James Young
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2014, 12:23:40 PM »

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He is a guy who is being sold as a shooter, but has been absolutely terrible this year.  I really have no interest in him.  Maybe he will be better away from Kentucky, but his inability to put the ball in the basket has been beyond alarming. 

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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2014, 12:35:42 PM »

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He is a guy who is being sold as a shooter, but has been absolutely terrible this year.  I really have no interest in him.  Maybe he will be better away from Kentucky, but his inability to put the ball in the basket has been beyond alarming.
From looking at his stats idk if i would say absolutely terrible... still shooting 32.8% from 3 and nearly 40% from the field.....while those numbers leave more to be desired not awful. Considering Gordon Hayward is shooting 30% from 3 and 40% FG this year......

PLUS Kentucky is a lil jacked up, they all come in trying to be 1 and done and off to NBA while not really playing together as a team......i dunno bout the kid but if this is his floor and potential is Michael Redd.......he might fit nicely along rondo in a year or 2.

Re: James Young
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2014, 12:38:43 PM »

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Young is hard to get a clear read on. When i watch Kentucky, my eyes always go to Randle or Cauley-Stein. They are the difference makers on that team.

Kentucky as a team is kind of a talented mess. They look like a bunch of freshman playing together with no real point guard. The perimeter players often just play hot potato with the ball on the outside until one of them jacks a three, or they give the ball to Randle.

Young looks like he has the tools, or should have the tools, to be a good pro. He has the body, can shoot, and plays a bit of an around game. He probably should stay in school. But if he slides to the 18 pick area, you have to give him a good look.

I definitely dont see michael redd when i see him play. Nbadraftnet always over estimates a player's ceiling. Every first rounder gets an all star ceiling.  :(

Re: James Young
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 12:39:41 PM »

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I watched the Kentucky game last night vs. Alabama.  Whoever was calling the game for ESPN (I think Bilas?) said the only two players on Kentucky who were capable of making an NBA roster next year were Randle and Cauley-Stein.  While I don't always agree with the worldwide leader's assessment, I agree with him on Young (and Kentucky in general, although I think Dakari Johnson wouldn't be a guaranteed flame-out if he went pro).  He takes a lot of 2-point jump shots, and isn't terribly good at them.  He's good at the spot-up 3-pointer, but is too willing to take them off the dribble.  He turns the ball over more than you would like for a wing -- Bilas implied that was due to his poor handles, although maybe it's due to bad decision-making and/or poor coaching.  He's athletic, and probably could become a good defender, but doesn't know how to do it yet.

It's tough to say.  He needs coaching.  He's not getting that at Kentucky.  Maybe he would improve at the pros, but you really shouldn't be learning how to play basketball in the NBA.  I'd personally stay away -- his ceiling is probably a starting role on the wing of a good team, but his floor is the same of all the wings who don't make it to year 4 of their rookie deal, and then bounce around for a couple years on minimum salary contracts.  While that might sound worth the risk, I think he's much much more likely to hit his floor instead of ceiling.  I think there will be players with similar ceilings who have a better chance of reaching them, or at least will be more useful if they don't, available at that second pick.

Re: James Young
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2014, 12:39:57 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2014, 12:45:31 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.

I would like to see how those players operate with a decent penetrating point guard on their team.  In the least i would like to see more aggressiveness from Young.

I even think the lack of aggressiveness, and lack of guard penetration hurts Randle, and forces him to keep playing black hole ball around the basket. He is often their only good looking half court option.

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2014, 12:51:22 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.

I would like to see how those players operate with a decent penetrating point guard on their team.  In the least i would like to see more aggressiveness from Young.

I even think the lack of aggressiveness, and lack of guard penetration hurts Randle, and forces him to keep playing black hole ball around the basket. He is often their only good looking half court option.

Yeah, the Harrison twins simply aren't PG's.

Really nobody on that roster has been able to improve their stock. Randle, Young, Harrison's, Polythress, Cauley-Stein...

Just seems like a poorly constructed roster.

I think Young may be best served staying another year but maybe not.
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Re: James Young
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2014, 01:01:39 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.

I would like to see how those players operate with a decent penetrating point guard on their team.  In the least i would like to see more aggressiveness from Young.

I even think the lack of aggressiveness, and lack of guard penetration hurts Randle, and forces him to keep playing black hole ball around the basket. He is often their only good looking half court option.

Yeah, the Harrison twins simply aren't PG's.

Really nobody on that roster has been able to improve their stock. Randle, Young, Harrison's, Polythress, Cauley-Stein...

Just seems like a poorly constructed roster.

I think Young may be best served staying another year but maybe not.

Yeah, considering he needs a point guard, and a better environment, you might be right in that staying at Kentucky might not be the best thing for him. calipari better go find another john wall or even a marquis Teague.

Re: James Young
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2014, 01:16:16 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.

I would like to see how those players operate with a decent penetrating point guard on their team.  In the least i would like to see more aggressiveness from Young.

I even think the lack of aggressiveness, and lack of guard penetration hurts Randle, and forces him to keep playing black hole ball around the basket. He is often their only good looking half court option.

Yeah, the Harrison twins simply aren't PG's.

Really nobody on that roster has been able to improve their stock. Randle, Young, Harrison's, Polythress, Cauley-Stein...

Just seems like a poorly constructed roster.

I think Young may be best served staying another year but maybe not.

Yeah, considering he needs a point guard, and a better environment, you might be right in that staying at Kentucky might not be the best thing for him. calipari better go find another john wall or even a marquis Teague.

Yeah, he may be one of those guys who looks better when NBA coaches get their hands on him.

He has all the "tools" you'd want. He's 6'7, left handed, natural scoring ability, actually tries on defense, and is only 18.

All that being said, if he was there with the Nets/Hawks pick, I'm pretty sure I'd pull the trigger.
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Re: James Young
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2014, 01:24:08 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.

I would like to see how those players operate with a decent penetrating point guard on their team.  In the least i would like to see more aggressiveness from Young.

I even think the lack of aggressiveness, and lack of guard penetration hurts Randle, and forces him to keep playing black hole ball around the basket. He is often their only good looking half court option.

Yeah, the Harrison twins simply aren't PG's.

Really nobody on that roster has been able to improve their stock. Randle, Young, Harrison's, Polythress, Cauley-Stein...

Just seems like a poorly constructed roster.

I think Young may be best served staying another year but maybe not.

Yeah, considering he needs a point guard, and a better environment, you might be right in that staying at Kentucky might not be the best thing for him. calipari better go find another john wall or even a marquis Teague.

Yeah, he may be one of those guys who looks better when NBA coaches get their hands on him.

He has all the "tools" you'd want. He's 6'7, left handed, natural scoring ability, actually tries on defense, and is only 18.

All that being said, if he was there with the Nets/Hawks pick, I'm pretty sure I'd pull the trigger.

My thoughts exactly, i feel like he could develop with a good coach and a good pg....Brad and Rondo!?!?! Love it if we could somehow get Embiid  and this kid with our picks, even if we have to trade anyone but rondo and sully to get em.

rondo/young/green/sully/embiid......is an interesting team just would hope those guys develop quickly to hit rondo while still in prime

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2014, 01:26:08 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.

I would like to see how those players operate with a decent penetrating point guard on their team.  In the least i would like to see more aggressiveness from Young.

I even think the lack of aggressiveness, and lack of guard penetration hurts Randle, and forces him to keep playing black hole ball around the basket. He is often their only good looking half court option.

Yeah, the Harrison twins simply aren't PG's.

Really nobody on that roster has been able to improve their stock. Randle, Young, Harrison's, Polythress, Cauley-Stein...

Just seems like a poorly constructed roster.

I think Young may be best served staying another year but maybe not.

Yeah, considering he needs a point guard, and a better environment, you might be right in that staying at Kentucky might not be the best thing for him. calipari better go find another john wall or even a marquis Teague.

Yeah, he may be one of those guys who looks better when NBA coaches get their hands on him.

He has all the "tools" you'd want. He's 6'7, left handed, natural scoring ability, actually tries on defense, and is only 18.

All that being said, if he was there with the Nets/Hawks pick, I'm pretty sure I'd pull the trigger.

My thoughts exactly, i feel like he could develop with a good coach and a good pg....Brad and Rondo!?!?! Love it if we could somehow get Embiid  and this kid with our picks, even if we have to trade anyone but rondo and sully to get em.

rondo/young/green/sully/embiid......is an interesting team just would hope those guys develop quickly to hit rondo while still in prime

I'm as high on Young as most, but I don't think he could really be counted on next year much, especially in a starting gig.
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Re: James Young
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2014, 01:28:53 PM »

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I like Young a lot personally.

He was the 10th ranked HS prospect coming out.

He has certainly disappointed, but the whole Kentucky team has been very disappointing.

I would like to see how those players operate with a decent penetrating point guard on their team.  In the least i would like to see more aggressiveness from Young.

I even think the lack of aggressiveness, and lack of guard penetration hurts Randle, and forces him to keep playing black hole ball around the basket. He is often their only good looking half court option.

Yeah, the Harrison twins simply aren't PG's.

Really nobody on that roster has been able to improve their stock. Randle, Young, Harrison's, Polythress, Cauley-Stein...

Just seems like a poorly constructed roster.

I think Young may be best served staying another year but maybe not.

Yeah, considering he needs a point guard, and a better environment, you might be right in that staying at Kentucky might not be the best thing for him. calipari better go find another john wall or even a marquis Teague.

Yeah, he may be one of those guys who looks better when NBA coaches get their hands on him.

He has all the "tools" you'd want. He's 6'7, left handed, natural scoring ability, actually tries on defense, and is only 18.

All that being said, if he was there with the Nets/Hawks pick, I'm pretty sure I'd pull the trigger.

My thoughts exactly, i feel like he could develop with a good coach and a good pg....Brad and Rondo!?!?! Love it if we could somehow get Embiid  and this kid with our picks, even if we have to trade anyone but rondo and sully to get em.

rondo/young/green/sully/embiid......is an interesting team just would hope those guys develop quickly to hit rondo while still in prime

I'm as high on Young as most, but I don't think he could really be counted on next year much, especially in a starting gig.

I agree I was thinking the year after 2015-2016

Re: James Young
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2014, 12:27:27 PM »

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The important thing is his potential. He's only 18, and scouts think he's not done growing or developing athletically. He's a good defender at 18 years old. He has real potential as a shooter, and he's a lefty!

 If we draft him, by the time we're ready to compete again he'll have developed into our starting 2.
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Re: James Young
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2014, 01:09:36 PM »

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He is a guy who is being sold as a shooter, but has been absolutely terrible this year.  I really have no interest in him.  Maybe he will be better away from Kentucky, but his inability to put the ball in the basket has been beyond alarming.
From looking at his stats idk if i would say absolutely terrible... still shooting 32.8% from 3 and nearly 40% from the field.....while those numbers leave more to be desired not awful. Considering Gordon Hayward is shooting 30% from 3 and 40% FG this year......

PLUS Kentucky is a lil jacked up, they all come in trying to be 1 and done and off to NBA while not really playing together as a team......i dunno bout the kid but if this is his floor and potential is Michael Redd.......he might fit nicely along rondo in a year or 2.

You just compared Hayward's pro numbers to Young's college numbers.  One, that's an imbalanced comparison and two, Hayward's percentages are terrible too.  They don't make Young's percentages look better.  Also, Hayward salvages value by being a very good playmaker, which Young thus far has not been.

If Young were to come back for his sophomore season, it wouldn't surprise me if he shoots much, much better.  He has a good stroke and a lot of his deep shots are good looks, not difficult ones like stepbacks or pull ups in transition.  I think he's just simply had a down season.  It happens.

Even if his shooting improves, I'm not seeing a high ceiling.  He has good size and very good length but his athleticism is only average.

Kentucky's offensive system is terrible by the way.  They hardly set any screens at all.  How can you have penetrators like the Harrison Twins and Young and athletic bigs like Randle and Cauley-Stein and not have them work together?