Could Chris Johnson potentially replace Avery Bradley as the starting SG?

[kozlodoev]

Just back after a lengthy layoff, we need to cut AB a little slack.  However the questions with him are do his size and shooting range/ability make him worth a long term commitment?  You already have RR as a below average perimeter shooter.  Can you afford a 2 playing with him who's not a significantly above average shooter and doesn't have great 3 point range?

Re Johnson lets see a larger sample size.  But he deserves a long hard look at this point, wouldn't you think?

Here's a shocking thought: you can keep both Johnson AND Bradley.

On a related note: I see that Johnson seems to have a pretty team-friendly 4 year contract at close to $1 with three team options. IF this is accurate, he'll probably be kept around for a long time, unless we suddenly need a roster spot.

[vjcsmoke]

If you don't think Bradley is starter material than Johnson could be a much more affordable guy off bench.  I don't believe Johnson is starting caliber but it would be nice in this "practice" season to have him start and play with rondo to see how hell do.

It's way to soon to project Chris Johnson as a starter.  I see him as a quality rotation guard on the cheap.  And that's an absolute bargain for what we're paying him.  he also has some room for improvement in his game at age 23.  So I hold onto CJ because, no trade value, no pedigree, but a useful bench/rotation player and minimum cap hit.

I'm glad that the Celtics held onto CJ for the rest of the year.  As for Bradley, Green, and Bass.  Any reasonable offer that gives us good value, I'd move them in a heartbeat.  I'm not convinced that Bradley can be that starting 2.  I'd rather trade Bradley for value and try to sign a real SG like say Lance Stephenson in the offseason.

[crimson_stallion]

He'll have to figure out how to play some team defense. I thick he's more of a 2 anyways, too skinny at the 3.

Yeah, he's a nice hustle guy and he's got the corner three thing down nicely.  He needs to bring some more defense to the table to be worthy of a rotation spot long term, however.  Definitely makes more sense at the 2.

I guess you didnt notice the block shot or two nice steals he had today. "Chucky" doesnt know when to stop shooting. At least johnson is automatic at the three pt line when he is open. Like ray allen automatic

steals/blocks doesnt mean good defense. There's more to defense than just steals and blocks.

And I mean, come on, I know we all dont like ray that much but johnson's is nowhere close to ray allen.

When he is left open he is ray allen automatic. Do you remember the last time he has missed an open 3?

Well I do recall a game where he shot something like 1-6 from three...

I like Chris Johnson a lot, but he is a little bit of a chucker.

Still really like him as a backup SG, he plays hard and brings a ton of energy.  He still will not impact many games the way Bradley frequently does.  Bradley has had quite a few 20 point games this season, and that's not bad considering he's shot reasonably efficiently (for a guard) and that offense isn't his strong suit. 

How many 20 point games has CJ had? 

[clover]

He'll have to figure out how to play some team defense. I thick he's more of a 2 anyways, too skinny at the 3.

Yeah, he's a nice hustle guy and he's got the corner three thing down nicely.  He needs to bring some more defense to the table to be worthy of a rotation spot long term, however.  Definitely makes more sense at the 2.

I guess you didnt notice the block shot or two nice steals he had today. "Chucky" doesnt know when to stop shooting. At least johnson is automatic at the three pt line when he is open. Like ray allen automatic

steals/blocks doesnt mean good defense. There's more to defense than just steals and blocks.

And I mean, come on, I know we all dont like ray that much but johnson's is nowhere close to ray allen.

When he is left open he is ray allen automatic. Do you remember the last time he has missed an open 3?

Well I do recall a game where he shot something like 1-6 from three...

I like Chris Johnson a lot, but he is a little bit of a chucker.

Still really like him as a backup SG, he plays hard and brings a ton of energy.  He still will not impact many games the way Bradley frequently does.  Bradley has had quite a few 20 point games this season, and that's not bad considering he's shot reasonably efficiently (for a guard) and that offense isn't his strong suit. 

How many 20 point games has CJ had?

A chucker? The kid's a career .485 from the 2, .421 from the 3, and .909 for FTs. He has a career TS% over .600.

What the heck is your definition of a chucker? Someone who doesn't shoot any more in a game if his first two shots don't go down?

[Celtics4ever]

I think AB might have priced himself out of our range and may be soon gone.

Let's get out his PER 36 and project what he could be ( but won't be).   I think he is a nice bench guy or Bruce Bowen at best.

[BballTim]

I think AB might have priced himself out of our range and may be soon gone.

Let's get out his PER 36 and project what he could be ( but won't be).   I think he is a nice bench guy or Bruce Bowen at best.

  Per36 isn't a projection any more than minutes/game or points/game or rebounds/game are. And the only way Bradley can price himself out of our range is to get an offer sheet that's for more money than we want to pay him.

[kozlodoev]

I think AB might have priced himself out of our range and may be soon gone.

Let's get out his PER 36 and project what he could be ( but won't be).   I think he is a nice bench guy or Bruce Bowen at best.

  Per36 isn't a projection any more than minutes/game or points/game or rebounds/game are. And the only way Bradley can price himself out of our range is to get an offer sheet that's for more money than we want to pay him.

Sure it is, depending on how many minutes you're playing.

[clover]

I think AB might have priced himself out of our range and may be soon gone.

Let's get out his PER 36 and project what he could be ( but won't be).   I think he is a nice bench guy or Bruce Bowen at best.

  Per36 isn't a projection any more than minutes/game or points/game or rebounds/game are. And the only way Bradley can price himself out of our range is to get an offer sheet that's for more money than we want to pay him.

Sure it is, depending on how many minutes you're playing.

Only if you leap to the conclusion that the same rate of performance would be realized if those 36 minutes were accrued in a single game. All it is is a measure of rate of performance.

[BballTim]

I think AB might have priced himself out of our range and may be soon gone.

Let's get out his PER 36 and project what he could be ( but won't be).   I think he is a nice bench guy or Bruce Bowen at best.

  Per36 isn't a projection any more than minutes/game or points/game or rebounds/game are. And the only way Bradley can price himself out of our range is to get an offer sheet that's for more money than we want to pay him.

Sure it is, depending on how many minutes you're playing.

  No it isn't. It doesn't mean that if he plays 36 minutes a game he'll get those stats, it's simply a measurement of his average  per minute numbers. The "36" is an arbitrary number that was chosen because it makes the numbers seem meaningful. For instance, it's hard to tell whether .07 steals/minute is good or bad, but it's easier to picture 2.5 steals per36.

[kozlodoev]

I think AB might have priced himself out of our range and may be soon gone.

Let's get out his PER 36 and project what he could be ( but won't be).   I think he is a nice bench guy or Bruce Bowen at best.

  Per36 isn't a projection any more than minutes/game or points/game or rebounds/game are. And the only way Bradley can price himself out of our range is to get an offer sheet that's for more money than we want to pay him.

Sure it is, depending on how many minutes you're playing.

  No it isn't. It doesn't mean that if he plays 36 minutes a game he'll get those stats, it's simply a measurement of his average  per minute numbers. The "36" is an arbitrary number that was chosen because it makes the numbers seem meaningful. For instance, it's hard to tell whether .07 steals/minute is good or bad, but it's easier to picture 2.5 steals per36.

I'm not sure most people who throw per36 stats around understand this. It's generally been used to say, "here's what player X will average per game if he played 36 minutes" -- which makes it a projection (and this projection gets increasingly poorer the fewer actual minutes per game said player logs).

[paidthecost2betheboss]

I think AB might have priced himself out of our range and may be soon gone.

Let's get out his PER 36 and project what he could be ( but won't be).   I think he is a nice bench guy or Bruce Bowen at best.

  Per36 isn't a projection any more than minutes/game or points/game or rebounds/game are. And the only way Bradley can price himself out of our range is to get an offer sheet that's for more money than we want to pay him.

Sure it is, depending on how many minutes you're playing.

  No it isn't. It doesn't mean that if he plays 36 minutes a game he'll get those stats, it's simply a measurement of his average  per minute numbers. The "36" is an arbitrary number that was chosen because it makes the numbers seem meaningful. For instance, it's hard to tell whether .07 steals/minute is good or bad, but it's easier to picture 2.5 steals per36.

.07 steals per minute..I'm in!!!!

[djbilly33]

AB sucks, no player is worth what he wants, actually they are all over priced by millions and millions. Avery is too short and cant finish.  Last I checked a shooting guard shoots and can actually make shots. On top of that, why would we have Johnson start? Really? He's unproven and going forward is he our future SG? NO!!!