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Idea: Green to DEN, Bass & Miller to WAS, Ariza & assets to BOS
« on: February 12, 2014, 11:36:25 AM »

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According to Zach Lowe, the Wizards are shopping Ariza's expiring deal (which I find a little surprising -- he's having a nice year). They need depth at PF and PG, and have reportedly been interested in Miller, just as Denver has in Green. So:

DEN gets: Jeff Green
WAS gets: Andre Miller, Brandon Bass
BOS gets: Trevor Ariza (expiring), Jan Vesely (expiring), and either:
 
1) Timofey Mozgov
2) Anthony Randolph, and DEN's right to swap 1sts with NYK in 2016.

I don't care too much which of these it is -- I'm more interested in cap space than anything else here, so I'd probably vote #2.

 

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Re: Idea: Green to DEN, Bass & Miller to WAS, Ariza & assets to BOS
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Celtics are giving up to much for just some future cap space.

Re: Idea: Green to DEN, Bass & Miller to WAS, Ariza & assets to BOS
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 12:31:01 PM »

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Celtics are giving up to much for just some future cap space.

That's the whole idea of the trade. I doubt they'll get more, and I think when push comes to shove -- the Cs will prefer cap space to either of these two players, even if they can't get 1sts.
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Re: Idea: Green to DEN, Bass & Miller to WAS, Ariza & assets to BOS
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 02:08:17 PM »

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Celtics are giving up to much for just some future cap space.

That's the whole idea of the trade. I doubt they'll get more, and I think when push comes to shove -- the Cs will prefer cap space to either of these two players, even if they can't get 1sts.
what's the infatuation with cap space?  I've mentioned it elsewhere, it's this site's great white whale.  senselessly chasing after just for the sake of catching it.

Re: Idea: Green to DEN, Bass & Miller to WAS, Ariza & assets to BOS
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 02:51:24 PM »

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According to Zach Lowe, the Wizards are shopping Ariza's expiring deal (which I find a little surprising -- he's having a nice year). They need depth at PF and PG, and have reportedly been interested in Miller, just as Denver has in Green. So:

DEN gets: Jeff Green
WAS gets: Andre Miller, Brandon Bass
BOS gets: Trevor Ariza (expiring), Jan Vesely (expiring), and either:
 
1) Timofey Mozgov
2) Anthony Randolph, and DEN's right to swap 1sts with NYK in 2016.

I don't care too much which of these it is -- I'm more interested in cap space than anything else here, so I'd probably vote #2.

I actually like this trade alot for the C's and I actually believe it's feasible, which doesn't happen often. Ariza slots into Green's spot for the rest of the year so we're fine there and Mozgov or Randolph starts at C sliding Sully back into his natural PF spot. Also with Bass gone Olynk sees more min to continue his development. What's not to like?

Celtics are giving up to much for just some future cap space.

That's the whole idea of the trade. I doubt they'll get more, and I think when push comes to shove -- the Cs will prefer cap space to either of these two players, even if they can't get 1sts.
what's the infatuation with cap space?  I've mentioned it elsewhere, it's this site's great white whale.  senselessly chasing after just for the sake of catching it.

I understand what you're saying, but in this case I disagree with you. What I mentioned above really helps development which is huge. Also we can for sure sign Bradley this summer which could be a young piece for a potential big trade. Knowing Danny he probably has some tricks up his sleeve for draft night and having the ability to take on additional salary in trades is huge when you're making big time deals.

Green and Bass are nice players, but they're probably not going to net us a whole lot of young talent or decent draft picks and I doubt they'll be here when we're truly contending (maybe Jeff, but imho I doubt it). I'll take an actual center to fix our lineup problems and cap space to make deals and sign Bradley any day of the week.

Re: Idea: Green to DEN, Bass & Miller to WAS, Ariza & assets to BOS
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 03:23:36 PM »

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Celtics are giving up to much for just some future cap space.

That's the whole idea of the trade. I doubt they'll get more, and I think when push comes to shove -- the Cs will prefer cap space to either of these two players, even if they can't get 1sts.
what's the infatuation with cap space?  I've mentioned it elsewhere, it's this site's great white whale.  senselessly chasing after just for the sake of catching it.

hyper-flexibility in deals, mostly. we'd immediately inherit the NBA pole position as the top match for any team forced to trade a star (ala Dwight Howard or Chris Paul). it's not sexy because it doesn't immediately return a shiny new toy and bloggers have no patience, for the most part. but it's far more valuable -- especially to a team with lots of picks -- than #UncleSnoozeButton.

i don't give a hoot about any player on this roster -- other than Rondo, Sully, and to a lesser extent Bradley -- until we find a franchise player through the draft, via trade, or both.

example: if you were the Blazers and you had to trade Aldridge over the summer... would you rather take back Jeff Green and / or Brandon Bass with your 3,4 draft picks for him, or... nothing?

you see my point. maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. or maybe you just want to take a pick from someone who needs to dump salary to get under the cap to sign a player, or under the tax. again, more valuable that a mediocre veteran taking us to the 30 win mark.
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Re: Idea: Green to DEN, Bass & Miller to WAS, Ariza & assets to BOS
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Celtics are giving up to much for just some future cap space.

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