Trade to keep us in the bottom 10 teams? Bass for T.Robinson+2nd rounder.

[slamtheking]

For those who don't realize, Bass has actually made himself a very attractive trade chip. His defense is apparently elite (top 5 points per possession apparently) and his mid-range game is hot as ever.

While fans are of course not always an indication of what their FO will do, most Portland fans I've chatted with would be willing to give up Meyers Leonard/filler for Bass.

Meyers has been racking up DNP-CD's and has people whispering the dreaded "B" word. He looks entirely lost out there on both ends of the court and is seeing very few minutes. He could become some kind of project for Brad Stevens. My source (aka me) would almost guarantee he is moved this season for some "win now" help.

I think Brandon Bass would be a perfect fit and could really boost what has been a very average defensive team and he could play with LMA or Lopez.

I have no interest in T-Rob ever becoming a competent NBA player so I would pass on your deal.

Wow. I was gonna say maybe Bass + 1st pick would land us Leonard + filler (maybe a low risk-medium reward prospect?).

And I agree with the sentiment that T-Rob alone won't cut it for Brandon Bass.

Bass AND a first for Leonard?? I was definitely thinking that Portland would have to add the first, not us. Leonard will be lucky to ever one day be as good as Bass and their first will be pretty low this year. Bass is in his 'prime' and is a perfect player for any team looking to make a run. If I am trading Bass, I am not giving up any picks unless we are obviously upgrading for the future.

Well, not following the Blazers, I didn't know he was looking like a bust. Leonard was, after all, a lotto pick from a pretty deep, strong draft.

Bass for Leonard I'd do. Bass for Leonard and a first I'd very much do.

But, Leonard's value is basically pure fan speculation, so who knows. Just like how I* knew Fab Melo was bad but I* didn't think he was going to be straight up waive material.

Yeah, I mean he's only 21 so it's too soon to call him a bust but he was demoted to 3rd string center after camp behind Robin Lopez and Joel Freeland and has appeared in a total of 20 minutes this season. Part of that is due to an illness, but still.

He has great physical tools and is a legit 7'1. I was a big fan when he left Illinois, but he may be an example of a player who left college a year too soon.

He would be a reclamation project I'd take on though and hope Brad Stevens can figure him out.

He had the biggest warning sign of all coming out of college --> a Big Ten Player.  Other than Conley (who needed a few years) and Sully out of Ohio State, the Big Ten has provided extremely little in the way of talent for the NBA.

[D.o.s.]

I have nothing to add to this except that Robinson looked all right in last night's Thunder Blazers game.

[Rondohara]

No tanks  we're getting to little of Bass ( I don't believe in this Robinson Kid). Bass value is good this year but at the right time next year, to the right team, he'll be gold. We should wait to sell him at a higher price.

[Smokeeye123]

Something like this will happen at the deadline. We have too many PFs.

[manl_lui]

Something like this will happen at the deadline. We have too many PFs.

Pretty sure Bass wants to be on a contender and Portland wants to improve.

It works both ways, Bass gives them more depth at the pf spot. We shed Bass' salary and take on a young prospect (lottery at that!).

Regardless of any first rounders are included, Bass for Robinson + fillers is definitely something to consider

[Lucky17]

Interesting: Portland doesn't own a 2nd rounder, either their own or anyone else's, through 2018.

Charlotte owns the rights to their lottery-protected 2014 1st rounder as well.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I can't imagine Portland giving up both Robinson and Leonard for Bass, but if Ainge could swing it, I'd be on board.

[LooseCannon]

No tanks  we're getting to little of Bass ( I don't believe in this Robinson Kid). Bass value is good this year but at the right time next year, to the right team, he'll be gold. We should wait to sell him at a higher price.

A young player with upside who has been disappointing enough that his team isn't counting on him as a piece of the future plus a second-round pick is probably the maximum you can hope for in return for a veteran starter on the sort of contract that Bass has.  If you are holding out for an expiring contract and a first, you are probably being unrealistic in your demands.

[BleedGreen1989]

No tanks  we're getting to little of Bass ( I don't believe in this Robinson Kid). Bass value is good this year but at the right time next year, to the right team, he'll be gold. We should wait to sell him at a higher price.

A young player with upside who has been disappointing enough that his team isn't counting on him as a piece of the future plus a second-round pick is probably the maximum you can hope for in return for a veteran starter on the sort of contract that Bass has.  If you are holding out for an expiring contract and a first, you are probably being unrealistic in your demands.

I would personally want to hold out for Meyers Leonard. I think a Bass/Crawford or Brooks for Robinson/Leonard could have some legs.

If it's just Robinson, I'd prefer to keep Bass and move him this summer. I just really don't believe in T-Rob at all.

[Lucky17]

FWIW, Leonard plus Claver plus a minimum level contract (Watson after Dec 15, Crabbe, or Barton) is enough salary to match Bass.

[aporel#18]

Interesting: Portland doesn't own a 2nd rounder, either their own or anyone else's, through 2018.

Charlotte owns the rights to their lottery-protected 2014 1st rounder as well.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I can't imagine Portland giving up both Robinson and Leonard for Bass, but if Ainge could swing it, I'd be on board.

This. And we'd also cut 800K in salaries. Great trade for the Cs if the Blazers are willing to make this deal.

[manl_lui]

Interesting: Portland doesn't own a 2nd rounder, either their own or anyone else's, through 2018.

Charlotte owns the rights to their lottery-protected 2014 1st rounder as well.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I can't imagine Portland giving up both Robinson and Leonard for Bass, but if Ainge could swing it, I'd be on board.

This. And we'd also cut 800K in salaries. Great trade for the Cs if the Blazers are willing to make this deal.

I don't see why not - Portland is doing great right now, adding Bass only makes them stronger. As he is a serviceable big man to start along or backup Aldridge

[aporel#18]

Interesting: Portland doesn't own a 2nd rounder, either their own or anyone else's, through 2018.

Charlotte owns the rights to their lottery-protected 2014 1st rounder as well.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I can't imagine Portland giving up both Robinson and Leonard for Bass, but if Ainge could swing it, I'd be on board.

This. And we'd also cut 800K in salaries. Great trade for the Cs if the Blazers are willing to make this deal.

I don't see why not - Portland is doing great right now, adding Bass only makes them stronger. As he is a serviceable big man to start along or backup Aldridge

I really hope you're right. Combine this trade with this proposed by JBCat ( Amare Stoudamire and Bobcats 2014 first rounder to Boston version) and we're set:

Rondo/Crawford/Pressey
Bradley/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Bogans
Sully/Kelly/T-Rob
Amare/Fav/Leonard

Then, with 6M less in salaries and 2 open roster spots, you have great flexibility short-term and long-term (Amare's big expiring contract next season). Too good to be true.