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Trade Possibilities with Utah
« on: July 01, 2013, 10:48:58 PM »

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Can Danny engineer a three way trade with Utah and NJ? According to Real GM (a fine website)

Utah Jazz- The Jazz potentially could have the most interesting and impactful summer of any team not in on Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Utah’s offseason will make waves because both Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap will be Unrestricted Free Agents and I have not heard of anyone who has a good idea what either wants to do. Since Utah has two major young building blocks on the interior in Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter, it would stand to reason that the team only needs to bring back one of the two for the long-term, though retaining both and eventually trading one of the four bigs certainly would be an option. What makes Utah’s summer even more interesting is that they have another season of rookie scale contracts for both Favors and Gordon Hayward which means that each becomes eligible for an extension in 2013 that would kick in for the 2014-2015 season. Considering the amount of work their perimeter rotation needs, Utah could use the resources they have to make some major moves, especially since they will have two first round picks in the Draft. Fun stuff.

We seem to have a lot of perimeter help but also we have a lot of bigs, too. My thought is to send out Kris Humphries, Courtney Lee, Jordan Crawford and two no 1s to Utah for Al Jefferson (S%T). Then perhaps a follow-up trade Brandon Bass and filler to OKC for Kendrick Perkins. It will boost Rondo's morale if nothing else and Perkins and Jefferson were going to be our front court for the next ten years at one time.


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Re: Trade Possibilities with Utah
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 10:56:08 PM »

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Can Danny engineer a three way trade with Utah and NJ? According to Real GM (a fine website)

Utah Jazz- The Jazz potentially could have the most interesting and impactful summer of any team not in on Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Utah’s offseason will make waves because both Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap will be Unrestricted Free Agents and I have not heard of anyone who has a good idea what either wants to do. Since Utah has two major young building blocks on the interior in Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter, it would stand to reason that the team only needs to bring back one of the two for the long-term, though retaining both and eventually trading one of the four bigs certainly would be an option. What makes Utah’s summer even more interesting is that they have another season of rookie scale contracts for both Favors and Gordon Hayward which means that each becomes eligible for an extension in 2013 that would kick in for the 2014-2015 season. Considering the amount of work their perimeter rotation needs, Utah could use the resources they have to make some major moves, especially since they will have two first round picks in the Draft. Fun stuff.

We seem to have a lot of perimeter help but also we have a lot of bigs, too. My thought is to send out Kris Humphries, Courtney Lee, Jordan Crawford and two no 1s to Utah for Al Jefferson (S%T). Then perhaps a follow-up trade Brandon Bass and filler to OKC for Kendrick Perkins. It will boost Rondo's morale if nothing else and Perkins and Jefferson were going to be our front court for the next ten years at one time.

That be really cool to have Perk and Al back.

I think both would love to be back in Boston and that definitely would give us a pretty sweet front-court.

Jefferson could play the 4 and Perk plays the 5.

Re: Trade Possibilities with Utah
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 11:00:58 PM »

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Can Danny engineer a three way trade with Utah and NJ? According to Real GM (a fine website)

Utah Jazz- The Jazz potentially could have the most interesting and impactful summer of any team not in on Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Utah’s offseason will make waves because both Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap will be Unrestricted Free Agents and I have not heard of anyone who has a good idea what either wants to do. Since Utah has two major young building blocks on the interior in Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter, it would stand to reason that the team only needs to bring back one of the two for the long-term, though retaining both and eventually trading one of the four bigs certainly would be an option. What makes Utah’s summer even more interesting is that they have another season of rookie scale contracts for both Favors and Gordon Hayward which means that each becomes eligible for an extension in 2013 that would kick in for the 2014-2015 season. Considering the amount of work their perimeter rotation needs, Utah could use the resources they have to make some major moves, especially since they will have two first round picks in the Draft. Fun stuff.

We seem to have a lot of perimeter help but also we have a lot of bigs, too. My thought is to send out Kris Humphries, Courtney Lee, Jordan Crawford and two no 1s to Utah for Al Jefferson (S%T). Then perhaps a follow-up trade Brandon Bass and filler to OKC for Kendrick Perkins. It will boost Rondo's morale if nothing else and Perkins and Jefferson were going to be our front court for the next ten years at one time.

Hmm...

I wonder what it would take to bring back both Big Al and his backup, Perk...

Rondo/Bradley
Lee/Bradley
Green/Crash
Sully/Olynyk
Big Al/Perk

That actually might have some potential...

Humphries (expiring) for Perk?

Bass, Bogans, picks for Big Al?

Re: Trade Possibilities with Utah
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 12:15:52 AM »

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That's a steep price to pay for Al Jeff. With all the salaries we'd be sending to Utah, I'd assume we'd be paying Al Jeff in the ballpark of $15M. Yikes.

That's the issue with bring back Al Jeff. He's a good player and a good guy, but he will perpetually be insanely overvalued just because he's an annual 20/10 candidate. Unfortunately, he's a very empty 20/10 candidate. He's almost a black hole on offense, because once you pass it to him, he does not have the ability to create for anybody else if he gets caught. Furthermore, his defense is very suspect.

I mean, at least David Lee can pass, and even still the Warriors are trying to move him for salary cap relief right now. Al Jeff is not a smart investment.

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 08:31:29 PM »

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That's a steep price to pay for Al Jeff. With all the salaries we'd be sending to Utah, I'd assume we'd be paying Al Jeff in the ballpark of $15M. Yikes.

That's the issue with bring back Al Jeff. He's a good player and a good guy, but he will perpetually be insanely overvalued just because he's an annual 20/10 candidate. Unfortunately, he's a very empty 20/10 candidate. He's almost a black hole on offense, because once you pass it to him, he does not have the ability to create for anybody else if he gets caught. Furthermore, his defense is very suspect.

I mean, at least David Lee can pass, and even still the Warriors are trying to move him for salary cap relief right now. Al Jeff is not a smart investment.

I'd take David Lee and/or Big Al

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 08:34:55 PM »

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Rondo, Green, Perk, Big Al... woah... sign Delonte, Gerald Green, Greg Oden, Robert Swift and Yi Jianlian too... it'll cause a rift in the Space Time continuum. 

Re: Trade Possibilities with Utah
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 08:39:32 PM »

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I'd take David Lee and/or Big Al

David Lee gets paid $13.9M this year, $15M next year, and $15.5 the next. Still want to take him? I can guarantee you Al Jefferson will be in the same ballpark, especially if it's a team like Charlotte that's going to sign him.

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 08:04:49 AM »

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Why would we do this? This will not bring us a championship, and will only serve to severely hamper our rebuild.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 08:30:32 AM »

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I'd much rather trade them Rondo and pick up some young pieces and/or draft picks. 

Marvin Williams (expiring for dollars), Trey Burke, Alec Burks, protected future 1st

for

Rondo


I think that is a reasonable deal for Rondo at this point.  I'm not saying I would do it, but I would think about it and I think Utah would probably do it.  If you did the trade you get your PG of the future in Burke, a good young SG prospect in Burks, and another future first round pick (very good chance Utah makes the playoffs next year and you get a mid-teens, low 20's pick in next years very deep draft).  You also get another decent sized expiring contract you may be able to flip for something at the deadline.
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Re: Trade Possibilities with Utah
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 08:54:18 AM »

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I wouldn't want to trade Rondo unless we are getting back Favors or Kanter but I doubt they move either.

It doesn't make sense for us to trade picks for Jefferson, any Jefferson or Millsap deal that puts us into the luxury tax and/or kills future cap space is not a good idea.

However, I do think that Utah is a good target for a salary dump of Bass, Lee or Wallace. They could send us Marvin Williams or just absorb the salary. They get a rotation player to help guide them and we get cap relief.
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Re: Trade Possibilities with Utah
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 09:00:00 AM »

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I love being hypothetical trade guy so how about...

Kris Humphries for Kendrick Perkins+one of their assets (Lamb, PJ3, 20141st)
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Re: Trade Possibilities with Utah
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 09:21:53 AM »

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I love being hypothetical trade guy so how about...

Kris Humphries for Kendrick Perkins+one of their assets (Lamb, PJ3, 20141st)
I would do it for Lamb but with K-Mart leaving I think they will need him in the rotation. Pj3 didn't show anything last year and he got picked late because there was a fear his knees wouldn't hold up. I would take their 2014 pick, but I'm not sure they would give it.

I think Perk is a great player to mentor young big men, especially the big men we have. He is excellent playing the pick and roll as well as rotating defensively despite his lack of footspeed. If Sullinger and Olynyk are to max our their potential they will need to exhibit these same traits.
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