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Re: now we know why Doc acts like he is doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2013, 04:12:12 PM »

Offline guava_wrench

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Good points, but still he's evil in my eyes.
He is evil because he gave in and agree to return as coach as the organization wanted and now we will probably get a 1st rounder from it instead of him just leaving to the clips as a 'free agent'?

Doc helped us quite a bit by doing all that. You might need glasses.

Re: now we know why Doc acts like he is doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2013, 05:13:47 PM »

Offline Boris Badenov

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Were you really excoriated;D It seems all your posts start off that way hahaha

I openly admit to doing some excoriating of a point of view that seem to me is a belief that Doc Rivers should treat his contract as if it is an unbreakable bond of slavery.

Yeah really, that's how I remember it too. The issue was that the OP seemed to not believe that Doc had the right to walk away from his contract before the full five years was up, subject to whatever non-compete clause it contained or other details. Which is pretty much exactly what is being discussed now.

Revisionist history?

Boris your position was quite unfathomable to say the least. You did not think a contract meant anyhting. It was your position that Doc did not have to honor his contract. Pretty out there if you ask me. But now we know why at least Doc felt he was not supposed to becasue like I said at the time it was an ILLUSION tehre was no real contract here. It was deceitful by all concerned. A contract meant to deceive the free agents into thinking Doc was here for the duration. Turns out that was not true, and also explains why ownership did not have a problem with the behavior of Doc. They pretty much had the inmates running the asylum.

I said nothing like that.

Your other thread got locked because in the words of the mod who locked it, a large number people were "poo'ing" (mod's words not mine) on your view.

The last thoughts expressed on this - by *other people*, not me - were things like "You apparently have no idea how an employment contract works or what it is for."

And that "you manufacture imaginary situations about a business relationship based on your personal feeling, simply to vilify a person you don't like."

And that you were "ignoring valid arguments and simply restating a premise that lacks even a hint of logic."

And, "You are totally making crap up."

All others' opinions, not mine.

Why you would want to revive that is beyond me. But whatever. I'm perfectly willing to let it go as long as you stop misrepresenting what I was saying in that thread, that is not cool.

Re: now we know why Doc acts like he is doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2013, 12:19:50 AM »

Offline Ogaju

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I know more about employment contracts than you know, so please just stop with the employment contract argument, especially since it is now out in the open that Doc's contract was a sham. You may have pooed on my opinion but you were wrong.

Re: now we know why Doc acts like he is doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2013, 01:13:01 AM »

Offline greenpride32

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According to this article it was Ainge who started negotiating with the Clippers about trading Doc; it wasn't Doc who asked out first: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228269/Source-Ainge-First-Approached-Rivers-With-Clippers-Trade-Scenario

I figure Doc would stay if the team were still competitive (by attracting a big name free agent for example).  But this team is going nowhere if Rondo is the best player.  He's not a superstar and not a top PG in the league; not even close.