Somebody sell me on Steven Adams...

[Celtics4ever]

I am inclined to think he may not be our guy.

http://www.nbanewsceltics.com/tags/steve-adams-nba-draft

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbnation/SBNation_20130527_NBA_Draft_2013__Steven_Adams_impresses_Celtics_in_workout.html

That is a classic show your hand smokescreen.   This leads me to believe that we are hyping him for our real guy.

[Tr1boy]

When you watch some videos of him (you can even tell from the Draftexpress video) , he demands frequent touches of the ball on the offensive end.

How you can possibly tell that from highlights or non-full game video?  You can absolutely not tell from the draftexpress video how frequently he demands touches because they're just cutups.  If you just went by the draftexpress video, it'd look like he demanded a touch 100 percent of the time.  I've seen a bunch of his games.  He definitely did not demand frequent touches/shots nor did he get them. 

Adams is very tantalizing on paper and if he doesn't bust, he could be a big defensive presence on a very good Celtics team in four or five seasons.  On the downside, he could be another Mozgov.

Sorry i didn't mean just from the clip. I've watched some Pitts games just last week.  He demands the ball down low, back to the basket and most of the time does not know what he is doing. Looks like he knows but the execution is not there

The "feel" part on both ends at times is not there. Wrong place at the wrong time. Again its def due to his age and only 1 year experience. But with this said, its also a risk to try to develop him. I'd rather get a guy that "knows" what to do, like Sullinger

[Tr1boy]

I am inclined to think he may not be our guy.

http://www.nbanewsceltics.com/tags/steve-adams-nba-draft

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbnation/SBNation_20130527_NBA_Draft_2013__Steven_Adams_impresses_Celtics_in_workout.html

That is a classic show your hand smokescreen.   This leads me to believe that we are hyping him for our real guy.

Imo only an amature gm/team will put alot of emphasis in these workouts. It's like with the pacers and grabbing Miles Plumlee. The guy accomplished very little in Duke and because he can jump really high, you choose him in the 1st round??

Adams is the same. Looks fabulous im sure. But can he do it in a game? can he do it for many games in a row?  A big risk to draft him imo. Atl on the other hand with multiple 1st round picks could absorb the risk.

[Who]

Makes me think of Alonzo Mourning watching those videos. Not the skill-level but the physical attributes. Reminds me of Alonzo Mourning's body type. The physical strength, the quickness end to end and side to side plus the body control.

He also looks like a headless chicken out there. No clue how to play. Completely raw. Needs to be trained from the ground up. Not going to be able to be relied upon for a year or two.

[Tr1boy]

Makes me think of Alonzo Mourning watching those videos. Not the skill-level but the physical attributes. Reminds me of Alonzo Mourning's body type. The physical strength, the quickness end to end and side to side plus the body control.

He also looks like a headless chicken out there. No clue how to play. Completely raw. Needs to be trained from the ground up. Not going to be able to be relied upon for a year or two.

exactly, and who knows even then. We already have this issue with Fab Melo. Melo hopefully comes in this year with a even better body.  He has to do well in pre season. Another d league stint with a better body, and i think he may never make it

[ianboyextreme]

a hs Noel would of said a hs adams would be tough.  Prob any hs centers would

Bc the thing is Adams has had the height and strength even from his high school days. The problem is that he hasn't really evolved from there. Like almost everyone has said, he really needed to stay at least one more year in college.

When you watch some videos of him (you can even tell from the Draftexpress video) , he demands frequent touches of the ball on the offensive end.  But the thing is, he doesn't have the skill to warrant these many touches. Back to the basket game is weak, passing is only avg, jumper is inconsistent. He doesn't have a faceup game and mainly likes to use his right hand. 

See this is a part of his game, i'm not too fond of. I mean, i like the enthusiasm but i don't like that he doesn't know his limits. Its not only sort of selfish but not good for your team. In the nba if he leaves the back to the basket game for a bit , or at least until he can develop, plus just do all the other things to help a team win, he could still be effective.  Again i just don't know if he can handle a simple task.

So for me, i can't sell you Adams. Not right now anyways

If you know a hs big man with a post game please direct Danny Ainge to him cause he would love to draft him.

[Galeto]

Makes me think of Alonzo Mourning watching those videos. Not the skill-level but the physical attributes. Reminds me of Alonzo Mourning's body type. The physical strength, the quickness end to end and side to side plus the body control.

He also looks like a headless chicken out there. No clue how to play. Completely raw. Needs to be trained from the ground up. Not going to be able to be relied upon for a year or two.

Headless chicken is going too far.  Yes to that on offense, where he is raw and mechanical but I thought he showed good awareness on defense.  If he can provide anything on offense, he could be a very good player.  This is why he made waves at the combine simply by hitting wide-open 15 foot jumpers at a good rate.

I saw some of his high school games and expected to see more from him on offense.  I'd be surprised if he's ever a low post threat but it didn't shock me that he shot well at the combine.  He's also not a bad passer.

Overall, if he can be a significant defensive presence who can pick and pop a bit and not be a drag on ball movement like Brandon Bass, he could be a very valuable player.

[Tr1boy]

Makes me think of Alonzo Mourning watching those videos. Not the skill-level but the physical attributes. Reminds me of Alonzo Mourning's body type. The physical strength, the quickness end to end and side to side plus the body control.

He also looks like a headless chicken out there. No clue how to play. Completely raw. Needs to be trained from the ground up. Not going to be able to be relied upon for a year or two.

Headless chicken is going too far.  Yes to that on offense, where he is raw and mechanical but I thought he showed good awareness on defense.  If he can provide anything on offense, he could be a very good player.  This is why he made waves at the combine simply by hitting wide-open 15 foot jumpers at a good rate.

I saw some of his high school games and expected to see more from him on offense.  I'd be surprised if he's ever a low post threat but it didn't shock me that he shot well at the combine.  He's also not a bad passer.

Overall, if he can be a significant defensive presence who can pick and pop a bit and not be a drag on ball movement like Brandon Bass, he could be a very valuable player.

it's nice he can make the 15 foot jump shots but can he do it in a game consistently? can he do it in a presence of a guy close to him?

he didn't prove he can do this last year during games. So again, we won't know

I'm not too excited about guys who can make 15 foot jump shots at workouts. Hell you would think Rondo is Steve Nash shooting threes when he does his shooting drills.  It's better than guys missing wide open 15 foot jumpers, but there is just too many other variables to know if they can do it in a game consistently. What if they miss one, will they lose confidence and start missing the next ones? or don't bother taking another one for the rest of the game.

From these workouts i do get excited if a player can now dribble well with their left hand.  If they added strength , how they can score on contact (contact drills), passing drills to evaluate ability to catch the ball etc.

[Celtics18]

Makes me think of Alonzo Mourning watching those videos. Not the skill-level but the physical attributes. Reminds me of Alonzo Mourning's body type. The physical strength, the quickness end to end and side to side plus the body control.

He also looks like a headless chicken out there. No clue how to play. Completely raw. Needs to be trained from the ground up. Not going to be able to be relied upon for a year or two.

Headless chicken is going too far.  Yes to that on offense, where he is raw and mechanical but I thought he showed good awareness on defense.  If he can provide anything on offense, he could be a very good player.  This is why he made waves at the combine simply by hitting wide-open 15 foot jumpers at a good rate.

I saw some of his high school games and expected to see more from him on offense.  I'd be surprised if he's ever a low post threat but it didn't shock me that he shot well at the combine.  He's also not a bad passer.

Overall, if he can be a significant defensive presence who can pick and pop a bit and not be a drag on ball movement like Brandon Bass, he could be a very valuable player.

I couldn't care less about his offensive game at this point.  He seems athletic enough and like an eager enough learner that he could work on that, but I could see him being given minutes early just based on his strength, his athleticism, and his ability to run the floor.