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Re: Dwight Howard reportedly strongly considering Houston and Dallas
« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2013, 04:21:47 PM »

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Yeah, I actually suppose Houston would have some assets the Lakers would want as well, should a sign and trade take place.

Maybe the Lakers get Asik, Lin, Delfino and Parsons for Howard going to Houston.
Why would the do that? They should be able to get enough room to sign Howard outright without giving up that many good players.

Just a hypothetical, in case the Lakers and Dwight agreed to a S/T.

Re: Dwight Howard reportedly strongly considering Houston and Dallas
« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2013, 04:23:44 PM »

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Yeah, I actually suppose Houston would have some assets the Lakers would want as well, should a sign and trade take place.

Maybe the Lakers get Asik, Lin, Delfino and Parsons for Howard going to Houston.
WAAAAAAAAAAY too much
TP for beating me to it.

Howard has to want to go to Houston for this to happen, in which case Houst just needs to shed what 5 million? They can just give away one asset instead of dealing with the Lakers.

The only counter is that a s&t would allow Houston to offer the extra year. But if Howard is demanding that I can't imagine the Lakers and Rockets playing nice (LA asking for too much, Houston unwilling to give).

EDIT: unless the Lakers were willing to end talks at just Asik. Which would be a painful pill for HOU to swallow, but you do what you have to do to get Howard.

Re: Dwight Howard reportedly strongly considering Houston and Dallas
« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2013, 04:28:36 PM »

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Yeah, I actually suppose Houston would have some assets the Lakers would want as well, should a sign and trade take place.

Maybe the Lakers get Asik, Lin, Delfino and Parsons for Howard going to Houston.
WAAAAAAAAAAY too much
TP for beating me to it.

Howard has to want to go to Houston for this to happen, in which case Houst just needs to shed what 5 million? They can just give away one asset instead of dealing with the Lakers.

The only counter is that a s&t would allow Houston to offer the extra year. But if Howard is demanding that I can't imagine the Lakers and Rockets playing nice (LA asking for too much, Houston unwilling to give).

EDIT: unless the Lakers were willing to end talks at just Asik. Which would be a painful pill for HOU to swallow, but you do what you have to do to get Howard.
Sign and Trade does not allow for an extra year anymore. They can only be 4 years, just like FA deals, same raises too.

Edit: Coon FAQ addresses this
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91. Why would teams or players want to do a sign-and-trade?
Teams benefit because they can get something in return for players they would otherwise lose to free agency. For players the benefits are limited. Under previous CBAs a player who qualified could receive a full Bird contract and go to the team of his choice, which encouraged the player to seek a sign-and-trade once he decided to play elsewhere. Under the current CBA a player receives the same contract via sign-and-trade (four years, 4.5% raises) that he could get by signing with his new team directly, and can receive a larger Bird contract only if he stays with his previous team. In addition, it is much simpler for the player to sign directly with his new team, as a sign-and-trade has to be agreed to by three parties rather than two. A player is really only forced to seek a sign-and-trade if he wants to go to a team that is capped-out (or doesn't have enough cap room to give the player his full starting salary) and can't sign him directly.

Another factor encouraging a player not to seek a sign-and-trade is that his new team might be weakened by losing players or draft picks in the trade. So while a sign-and-trade is a useful tool when the team does not have the cap room to sign the player directly, the player and his new team have little reason to seek a sign-and-trade when the player can be signed without involving his previous team

Re: Dwight Howard reportedly strongly considering Houston and Dallas
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2013, 04:29:24 PM »

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Yeah, I actually suppose Houston would have some assets the Lakers would want as well, should a sign and trade take place.

Maybe the Lakers get Asik, Lin, Delfino and Parsons for Howard going to Houston.

If they get that...
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