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Re: A stat that jumped out at me.
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2013, 12:22:37 PM »

Offline pearljammer10

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1)  Not having Rondo run the offense

2)  Not having Ray Allen spreading the floor
3) Pierce chucking (bad) jumpers like there was no tomorrow.

4) Having a lot of offense run from Green, who's not very good in going to the roll/pop part of the pick-and-roll/pop.

I was gonna say those extra shots went to Jeff Green while he was running that heavy iso offense.

Re: A stat that jumped out at me.
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2013, 12:42:06 PM »

Offline Celtics18

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1)  Not having Rondo run the offense

2)  Not having Ray Allen spreading the floor

In terms of #1, I think yes, but not why other people do.  I don't feel that Rondo's penetration was the difference maker in that many FGAs for our bigs.  Moreso, it was that Rondo is an incredible ball handler and was able to dribble the ball right at the 3 pt line without feeling pressure and make an entry pass into the post.  Without Rondo, our guards never felt unpressured within 35 feet of the basket so were never in range to make a good entry pass to the post.

I agree with this, but I think both those things are true.  Rondo does create a lot of easy looks for his bigs off penetration.  He is also a much better entry passer than anyone we had out there this past off-season.
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Re: A stat that jumped out at me.
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2013, 01:01:46 PM »

Offline Boris Badenov

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The thing that stood out more than anything to me, particularly in the playoffs, was are complete inability to make even the most simple of post-entry passed.

Pierce was the only player who seemed capable, but a good majority of the attempts were aimed towards Pierce while he was in the post.

I remember Pierce blowing a lot of passes too, for what that's worth.

I think that it was, in retrospect, a mistake for Doc to move Pierce to SG with Rondo out.

With Rondo out Pierce was a decent option as a point forward bringing the ball up against SFs.

And as an SG with Rondo getting him the ball in his spots, his advantage over SGs (shooting over them, being physically more powerful) would have been much more useful than his disadvantages.

But with Rondo out and Pierce at SG, against Shumpert and other pesky defenders of SGs, with quicker hands and feet, his limitations as a ball-handler were highlighted. I think this is why his turnovers were so high in that series.

Re: A stat that jumped out at me.
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2013, 01:32:07 PM »

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1)  Not having Rondo run the offense

2)  Not having Ray Allen spreading the floor
3) Pierce chucking (bad) jumpers like there was no tomorrow.

4) Having a lot of offense run from Green, who's not very good in going to the roll/pop part of the pick-and-roll/pop.

I was gonna say those extra shots went to Jeff Green while he was running that heavy iso offense.
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Re: A stat that jumped out at me.
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2013, 06:00:20 PM »

Offline DarkAzcura

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I've never seen so many players on one team struggle to make an entry pass as much as I did in the Knicks series. That's really the only reason for me.

Re: A stat that jumped out at me.
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2013, 06:04:09 PM »

Offline CelticConcourse

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1)  Not having Rondo run the offense

2)  Not having Ray Allen spreading the floor

kg plays pf (sometimes) with steimsma in it makes easier for kg to shoot and rebounds given the height...
bass jump shots are awful even before rondo got injured...rondo injured...it became much worse...
if bass only plays good on playoffs time, he does not have the heart of being a celtics player, i say trade him...as for kg grabbing 17offense rebounds, i take him until next year with pierce

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