Does KG Needs To Have A Low Post Scorer Beside Him? Or A Jump Shooter Like Bass?

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KG needs a Pau Gasol type!

and who is that pau gasol type?

There's a lot.

like who?

The shorter, younger version is recovering from surgery right now.

SULLY!

Size matters, eh?

[crimson_stallion]

I think this one is a no brainer - low post for sure.

You can see that Bass has been more productive since KG sat out - there are only so many 15 foot jumpers to go around for frontcourt guys.  Post up big draws double teams in the post which gives shooters space.  Of you have nothing but jumpshooters it allows the defence to just stick to their man...

[aporel#18]

The Celtics need someone who can play with KG and someone who can give him rest. Both need to be 6'9 or more, and be able to defend bigmen and grab a rebound. If they can score also it will be a bonus.

Right now our bigmen outside of KG are not meeting those standards. By the time of the Perk trade, we had Shaq, JO, Krstic and Semih to play with KG or spell him.

We need two of those who can stay healthy and we'll be ok. Wilcox, Shavlik, Bass and DJ White are our "big men" outside of KG. Two of them should step up and be productive, but we need more size/talent.

[krook]

The Celtics need someone who can play with KG and someone who can give him rest. Both need to be 6'9 or more, and be able to defend bigmen and grab a rebound. If they can score also it will be a bonus.

Right now our bigmen outside of KG are not meeting those standards. By the time of the Perk trade, we had Shaq, JO, Krstic and Semih to play with KG or spell him.

We need two of those who can stay healthy and we'll be ok. Wilcox, Shavlik, Bass and DJ White are our "big men" outside of KG. Two of them should step up and be productive, but we need more size/talent.

i think a more height is needed, as we saw on collins it really helps us a lot, having 2 6'9 um, i still think with teams going big on front court, we should have some counter big man, if the lakers two big man are healthy, lets say miami heat next year get a 7 footer big or someone like oden, we need to have some help, too,

[BballTim]

I think this one is a no brainer - low post for sure.

You can see that Bass has been more productive since KG sat out - there are only so many 15 foot jumpers to go around for frontcourt guys.  Post up big draws double teams in the post which gives shooters space.  Of you have nothing but jumpshooters it allows the defence to just stick to their man...

  It's not that unusual for one or more of the lesser players to benefit statistically when a star leaves the lineup.

[celticsleyte]

KG needs to have a quality big man next to him (PF or C).  The rest can be worked out. 

That's the beauty of KG, he is versatile enough to play with most anyone, but our problem is, we haven't had a starting quality big to put next to him in a while.

Pretty much.

Having a jump shooter opens up KG's inside game, having KG would open up the other big man's post up game if he was a bigger post threat. An active cutter who could catch the interior pass would also be nice.

KG will make it work with almost anyone.

I think the low post scorer is the best option.

Yes KG will make it work best with almost anyone, but his game has been moving further away from the basket over the last few years. KG can use his inside game but he is much more comfortable with his mid range game away from the hoop.

Thats why a guy with a post-up game works better. Someone who can kick it back out to KG for a 15 footer. KG can still work his inside game when he is the big man on the floor, but I think by putting a low-post threat on the court with KG he will get much cleaner looks and conserve a lot more energy because he won't be relied on to bang as much down low.

Maybe a post up player works better.  But the problem is, there are very few good post up players in the league.  And if the choice comes down to an average post up player versus a very good perimeter big man, you need to take the best player.

This idea of zeroing in on specific skillsets is what kills so many teams and GMs.  Yes, players need to mesh together, but when it comes down to it, talent wins.  And when you have guys like KG, and Pierce, who can really play any style, then you really do need to just worry about talent and productivity first, and position later.

Of course you take the best player available. I was speaking in terms of all things being equal, what style of play would you most want to match with KG.

That being said I think there is something to be said for fit/style being a factor. I mean just look at how hard it has been for the Knick's to integrate Carmelo, Chandler and A'mare. They all have a boat load of talent but they don't fit quite right so its not working perfectly.

I would always be inclined to choose talent over fit or style, but in a case where its close or a toss up, I think you have to consider it because it does make a significant difference.

But the point is, KG is not Amare (who is the real problem).

He can play with anyone, and play well. 

Honestly, I think the guy who needs the interior scorer the most isn't KG, but Rondo.  He is at his best when he has a finisher on the inside, who will keep the help defense honest, and make them pay for overcommiting.  THAT is why Shaq made this team so good.  He opened up the floor for Rondo.

Interesting point about Shaq and Rondo.  I have thought that Rondo as a smart basketball player has always looked to increase scoring near the rim to open up the floor for everyone.  I have watched him for years feeding KG in the post perhaps more than KG would prefer.  It is why he looks for Wilcox and cutters to the hoop in general not to rack up assists but to make the defense concerned about protecting the paint. (of course all the inside scoring counts on the scoreboard and gets people in foul trouble).  When you can score inside everything else comes easier.

[CelticD]

KG needs to have a quality big man next to him (PF or C).  The rest can be worked out. 

That's the beauty of KG, he is versatile enough to play with most anyone, but our problem is, we haven't had a starting quality big to put next to him in a while.

Pretty much.

Having a jump shooter opens up KG's inside game, having KG would open up the other big man's post up game if he was a bigger post threat. An active cutter who could catch the interior pass would also be nice.

KG will make it work with almost anyone.

nah i dont think kg is all that versatile. yes he can score in the post, but i doubt he can alter his entire game to just bein a post player for 30+ minutes a night. he's a stretch big, and he has been for a big part of his career. he can score in the post on occasion, but i think he would much rather shoot.

after all, bass last season was one of the best mid range jump shooting big men in the league, and kg still attempted, and made most of his shots from 16-23 feet.

besides, kg isnt at the age where he can constantly try to muscle his way down into the post. he'll muscle u down for a little bit, stop when he's like 10 feet away, and make a turn around jump shot over u. it works sure, but i dont think that his at his age, his strength will make him a consistent post scorer in this league.

[Moranis]

Doesn't really matter, they just have to be better than Bass.