Hollinger on Good, Bad, and Ugly

[Kane3387]

Hollinger  on Celtics. We are one of the good.

Boston Celtics


Even though I hate the Jeff Green deal with every fiber of my being, Boston's offseason was so good in other respects that I have to put them here. For all the angst over Allen's departure, the Celtics' ability to put together a creative sign-and-trade for Courtney Lee effectively made it a moot point; Lee is younger, defends better, shoots 40 percent on 3-pointers and costs less than what they had offered Allen.

The Celtics also got some much-needed bench scoring by picking up Jason Terry with their midlevel exception -- something made possible by inking Kevin Garnett to a cap-friendly deal that will keep them below the tax apron -- and then rounded things out by keeping Brandon Bass and stocking the bench with some solid minimum deals (Jason Collins, Chris Wilcox, Keyon Dooling). First-rounder Jared Sullinger looks like a keeper, too.

The one negative was the Green deal, which is believed to be four years, $32 million -- far too much for a player who has proven fairly replaceable in his first four seasons and missed the fifth with a heart problem. Nonetheless, Boston, against all odds, seems primed for yet one more run.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8224707/good-bad-ugly-2012-nba-offseason

[jambr380]

Hollinger  on Celtics. We are one of the good.

Boston Celtics


Even though I hate the Jeff Green deal with every fiber of my being, Boston's offseason was so good in other respects that I have to put them here. For all the angst over Allen's departure, the Celtics' ability to put together a creative sign-and-trade for Courtney Lee effectively made it a moot point; Lee is younger, defends better, shoots 40 percent on 3-pointers and costs less than what they had offered Allen.

The Celtics also got some much-needed bench scoring by picking up Jason Terry with their midlevel exception -- something made possible by inking Kevin Garnett to a cap-friendly deal that will keep them below the tax apron -- and then rounded things out by keeping Brandon Bass and stocking the bench with some solid minimum deals (Jason Collins, Chris Wilcox, Keyon Dooling). First-rounder Jared Sullinger looks like a keeper, too.

The one negative was the Green deal, which is believed to be four years, $32 million -- far too much for a player who has proven fairly replaceable in his first four seasons and missed the fifth with a heart problem. Nonetheless, Boston, against all odds, seems primed for yet one more run.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8224707/good-bad-ugly-2012-nba-offseason

Thanks for the post...has something changed on the terms of the Jeff Green Deal? It has always been reported as being $36M.

[j804]

Hollinger  on Celtics. We are one of the good.

Boston Celtics


Even though I hate the Jeff Green deal with every fiber of my being, Boston's offseason was so good in other respects that I have to put them here. For all the angst over Allen's departure, the Celtics' ability to put together a creative sign-and-trade for Courtney Lee effectively made it a moot point; Lee is younger, defends better, shoots 40 percent on 3-pointers and costs less than what they had offered Allen.

The Celtics also got some much-needed bench scoring by picking up Jason Terry with their midlevel exception -- something made possible by inking Kevin Garnett to a cap-friendly deal that will keep them below the tax apron -- and then rounded things out by keeping Brandon Bass and stocking the bench with some solid minimum deals (Jason Collins, Chris Wilcox, Keyon Dooling). First-rounder Jared Sullinger looks like a keeper, too.

The one negative was the Green deal, which is believed to be four years, $32 million -- far too much for a player who has proven fairly replaceable in his first four seasons and missed the fifth with a heart problem. Nonetheless, Boston, against all odds, seems primed for yet one more run.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8224707/good-bad-ugly-2012-nba-offseason

Thanks for the post...has something changed on the terms of the Jeff Green Deal? It has always been reported as being $36M.

Yeah, found that interesting maybe that's the hold up and Green wants 36?

[masteremile123]

I don't get it with the jeff green thing . I know the guy didn't play well his time here and he had heart problems last year. BUT this guy was our only option , its not like we can go and sign someone else for less money . Its either this team with jeff green or without jeff green and if being with jeff green means 9 mil for 4 years than so be it we are over the cap for 3 of those years anyway .

[Kane3387]

I don't get it with the jeff green thing . I know the guy didn't play well his time here and he had heart problems last year. BUT this guy was our only option , its not like we can go and sign someone else for less money . Its either this team with jeff green or without jeff green and if being with jeff green means 9 mil for 4 years than so be it we are over the cap for 3 of those years anyway .

I agree.

[GreenEnvy]

I don't get the overreaction to the Green deal either. He is not a superstar, but he's not getting paid max money either. Some people are acting like we just gave him a Joe Johnson contract.

$9 million per. That's worthy of hating with every fiber of your being? I can probably name a handleful of worse contracts this offseason and loads of them the past decade.

The guy is a proven 15ppg scorer as a third option. He can hit corner threes, create his own shot (look for him to post up more against SF's), and is a good defender. Is he even in the top 50 highest paid players?

But this is Hollinger, so yeah.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

While I agree with Hollinger said about us having another run, I disagree with his Jeff Green thing.

Sure he's overpaid, but not vastly, and he's a very good pick up for us. A starting level SF who comes off the bench, while a bit overpaid, is fine by me.

[LilRip]

I don't get the overreaction to the Green deal either. He is not a superstar, but he's not getting paid max money either. Some people are acting like we just gave him a Joe Johnson contract.

$9 million per. That's worthy of hating with every fiber of your being? I can probably name a handleful of worse contracts this offseason and loads of them the past decade.

The guy is a proven 15ppg scorer as a third option. He can hit corner threes, create his own shot (look for him to post up more against SF's), and is a good defender. Is he even in the top 50 highest paid players?

But this is Hollinger, so yeah.

TP. Interesting that he said 32/4 though instead of 36/4. typo perhaps?

[blastoidesroidsnoids]

Hollinger is ugly, bad at his job and good at being a doofus.

[GreenEnvy]

I don't get the overreaction to the Green deal either. He is not a superstar, but he's not getting paid max money either. Some people are acting like we just gave him a Joe Johnson contract.

$9 million per. That's worthy of hating with every fiber of your being? I can probably name a handleful of worse contracts this offseason and loads of them the past decade.

The guy is a proven 15ppg scorer as a third option. He can hit corner threes, create his own shot (look for him to post up more against SF's), and is a good defender. Is he even in the top 50 highest paid players?

But this is Hollinger, so yeah.

TP. Interesting that he said 32/4 though instead of 36/4. typo perhaps?

Not sure if it is a typo or if their are conflicting details.

But the only people I heard $32M from was Simmons and now Hollinger. One is a sports fan and the other is a statistician. I trust neither compared to the many reputable sources that have reported $36M.

[tarheelsxxiii]

32 feels friendlier and more reasonable. Green has the ability, I've just never seen him play with fire. If he amps it up about 4.6 notches, I think we will be very happy with his production. He's smart, skilled, a good locker room guy... just has to get angry and play like it for us to be a serious, serious threat this year. No idea if he's got it in him - kinda makes it exciting, yeah? - but I sure as **** hope so.