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Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2012, 12:04:59 AM »

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Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 12:07:01 AM »

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Love the Sullinger pick and really coming around to Melo the more I look into it... Tyson Chandler is a good ceiling I agree. Sullinger was a flat out steal that other teams didnt want to risk their only pick on before 21

Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 12:10:46 AM »

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Doc was very high on Sullinger and he spent a lot of time watching games this year while following his son.

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 12:11:57 AM »

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Sullinger has been highly touted for two years.  When Melo went down the #1 ranked Orangemen were automatically written off by most bracketeers and experts.  That says something about his value.  Lets see what happens.

Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 12:32:05 AM »

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Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 12:34:02 AM »

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Sullinger if healthy can come in right away and solve what has been one of our biggest problems since Perk went down in the finals, rebounding. Sullinger can hit the mid range jumper (not at the same rate as Bass but well). Plus he has post moves.

My initial reaction with Melo is he could be good but he is two years away. He is big long and pretty athletic. Then after thinking about it, he can probably come in right away and give the Celtics exactly what Hollins did (once he gets the rotations down). Despite not being a great jump shooter his shot looks promising. He is a raw prospect that is on the perfect team to mold him. You hope that his rebounding numbers were effected by him playing the middle of the zone and constantly stopping drives. He didn't box out excellently but boxing out is usually more difficult in the zone and maybe since he is so new to the game he can be broken of that habbit.
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Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 12:37:22 AM »

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Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 08:09:55 AM »

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You hope that his rebounding numbers were effected by him playing the middle of the zone and constantly stopping drives. He didn't box out excellently but boxing out is usually more difficult in the zone and maybe since he is so new to the game he can be broken of that habbit.

Yes, when playing in the paint you're either trying to block shots or box out, it's very difficult to give full attention to both responsibilities at the same time.

I'm pleased about all three picks. If Melo can find his feet sooner rather than later and Sullinger's back isn't as bad as reports suggest then the front court is gets a decent upgrade from stiffs like Hollins and Williams. KJ is also great as a second rounder: he's quick and athletic with a smooth jump shot plus he looks like a pickpocket in the passing lanes.

Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 08:28:49 AM »

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Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2012, 08:37:33 AM »

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We had the problem of trying to bring back KG and start the rebuild at the same time and we didn't have the luxury of having loto picks to do it with or WILLING trading up partners in the draft.

Given what was offered Danny took the best options for our club he could.  I wanted White ,but he wasn't there...what are we suppose to do ??? Sully was damaged goods, but rated much higher than White ,  maybe we got a steal....maybe not...but not a bad pick at that point.  

Its all about risk , the sure deals were taken, so you weight the odds and make a call. I think the staff did fine lose or win. I couldn't have done better.

Melo has low initial rewards , but may be a decent starter or second string center in 2 years...I see what Roy Hibbert accomlished. He moves nice and not lumbering like Perk . He has great energy and nice touch and hands for a big guy.  Just needs "TIME"  been only playing seriously for 3 years. When most of the these guys have been playing/learning since they were 6 yrs old.  He has GOOD attitude....something that is must for Doc and Dannys club.

We did ok from where we picked.

I think these three guys will mesh nice with JJJ , Moore , AB and Rondo.  Decent start on a future core.....while still a playoff contender.

Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2012, 08:41:13 AM »

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I'm stoked with Sullenger, I wanted a PF so Jones would've been nice, but other teams were very worried too so there's something deeper going on I think.

Regarding Melo, although he will have to work on understanding the rotations on man, I don't think he'll have a problem at all. He does get caught watching the ball a lot and it might take a few months but his soccer background is great for rotational defensive adjustments. He has lost so much weight and he can run very well for a bigger, stronger 7 footer.
Here's his efforts in the Syracuse zone. Watch him take charges like a buffalo. He's going to be a beast inside.
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Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2012, 02:02:42 PM »

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Alright, I'm ready to be positive. I like that we picked guys who are big men who should be able to contribute right away in certain roles we needed last year. Fab Melo is certainly no worse than Hollins or Stiemsma as a defensive center, and Sullinger is pretty similar to Davis and Bass, but with better rebounding skills.

What actually is giving me hope is that if the picks pan out as they should with no injury concerns or Melo just flat out flopping is that they should fit roles that a lot of contending teams want, and should be easy to trade when our window closes. I really, really don't like Sullinger or Melo as building blocks for a team that is rebuilding. I do like them for what they are for us right now, extra pieces. Much like Delonte West and Ryan Gomes had some value around the league at some point, I think the Celtics could sell high on these two when another roster transformation is needed.

Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2012, 02:04:33 PM »

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Sully will bust his butt in boston...he will be a crowd favorite

Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2012, 02:08:49 PM »

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Sullinger should be able to teach Melo quite a bit about establishing position down low and developing a couple post moves.

With the Celtics' weight training program and further education on post scoring, a 265 pound Melo could be a pretty decent scorer over the shorter and weaker NBA centers that have become en vougue around the league.

As Melo develops and draws more defensive attention, he has the passing skills to punish teams for doubling him, and Sullinger has the hands and finishing ability to capitalize.

Likewise, Sullinger has the scoring ability to draw double teams, and the passing ability to find the open man. And Melo already has proven to have adequate hands and finishing ability.

When Melo improves his strength and physicality on offense, the Celtics bigs could really punish undersized front lines league-wide.

Both Melo and Sullinger are already above average offensive rebounders.

I like how Danny zigged when the rest of the league seems to be zagging, as far as front-court strength goes.

Sullinger and Melo together are 520 pounds, and only getting stronger.

With Rondo and Bradley playing tight pressure defense, other teams will have less time to set up and get their quicker PFs the ball. This will help cover for Sullinger's lack of footspeed and vulnerability defending pick and rolls.

Rondo and Bradley shortening the shot-clock will also enable Sullinger to log substantial time at center next to Garnett. Sullinger can just use his body to keep taller centers away from the basket, like Big Baby used to do.

These two picks scream synergy, which makes each of them and the Celtics even better.



Re: The Positivity Thread
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2012, 02:14:40 PM »

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Another great, solid, Ainge draft.

*The tweener pick who could come right in and start, or be first off the bench.  

*Big man project whose somewhat new to the game, good defender in college..

*Athletic G/F who can score & defend