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Re: Next's year's roster
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2012, 01:51:08 PM »

Offline tyrone biggums

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Bottom line I would bring Ray and KG back on a one year deal. What's the point? The worst way to grow IMO for most of these guys would be just throwing the young guys into the fire. Some of the people who are saying to build around Green, it's tough to gauge how he will be coming back from his heart ailment. Here is what I would do

Starters
Rondo
Bradley
Pierce
KG
(Free Agent)

6th man
Ray Allen

Bench
Bass (on 1 year deal)
Moore
JJJ (will get more rotation minutes)
21st pick
22nd pick
Green
Steamer

You never know what will fall to the Celtics with these picks...might be the least popular scenario for 90% of you guys but how many people threw in the towel after 10 games this year? You wanted youth well that would probably be the youngest bench in the league outside of Ray.

Re: Next's year's roster
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2012, 11:16:46 AM »

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I am not suggesting the season is over, and I realize this may have been discussed before, but I think we are at a place now where we can begin to see what our team might look like next year.  Here is my take:

1.  Rondo, PP, Avery and assured spots

2.  I think we should go ahead and try to bring back KG.  Money (and more importanly years) will be a factor but I would love to have him back.

3.  I go ahead and try to bring back Green and Wilcox, who hopefully we could get on short contracts based on health.

4.  I think JuJuan Johnson is virtually guaranteed to come back also.

5.  So that's seven.  In terms of people that should definetely be gone, I'd say Williams, Ray :(, Daniels, and Hollins.

6.  The guys on the fence would be Bass, Pietrus, Moore, Steisma, Pavlovic, and Dooling.  These guys are what Bill Parcell's used to call JAG's (short for, just another guy).  Of this group, Steisma (Not Bass because I would prefer Green instead) is the one I think about keeping the most, but I would try to upgrade is possible.

7.  I am going to assume that we draft two players and they both make the team.  



Going forward like the OP says Rondo, PP & Avery are more than likely here next season.  I also think that JuJuan Johnson and Moore will be here as well, unless they end up as trade bait in part of a deal for a more established player.  Add in the fact that at least two rookies will be coming in and that leaves 8 available spots on the roster and so many questions.

1.  I think if KG wants to continue playing, he's a Celtic on a one to two year deal, especially if the Celtics continue to appear be out of the running for Dwight Howard.  And if no superstar is coming, I think there is nothing wrong with giving KG around 20 million over 2 years, with his play this year he's earned it.  I think having him around is important to the culture of this team, especially if the C's continue to be shut out of top free agents coming to town.

2.  Obviously a similar situation with Ray, if there is nothing upcoming as far as a superstar coming this summer, offer Ray 6 million (just over the mid level that maxed out conteders can offer) and a partially guaranteed 2nd year.  Not sure how the CBA works on this, but since the C's will be under the cap something similar to Lamar Odom's situation seems appropriate 2.5 - 3 as a payoff giving the C's an opportunity to cut him next season if he proves that his age and ankles can't hold up.  If Ray don't like that, with all due respect, tell him to take a hike

3.  Does Bass opt out, and is he worthy of a long term deal?  I think it's a lock that he opts out for him to get some long term security, but I also think he's not going to get any offers more than 5 mil a year & if he does, than GM's around the league really didn't learn anything after last years lockout.  I think Bass would be excellent going forward as the 1st or 2nd big off the bench.  I don't think having him around for another 2 to 4 years at reasonable money (4-5 mil a year) would hurt, but of course it all depends on what he get's offered on the open market.

4.  Green - same situation as Bass, of course with the C's hopefully getting a little protection to get out of a contract if his heart issues flare up.

That leaves only 4 roster spots and basically no cap room.  I believe having players around that know the system and have done well here for who they are deep bench players having Wilcox, Steimsma, & Peitrus around wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.  For the last spot on the roster I suggest they take a flyer on players such as Michael Beasley Illyasova with the mid-level, and hope they reach their potential wearing Celtic Green.  

The trade market and the availabilty of players like Josh Smith, Andre Iguadala (only a year or two left at that awful contract), or one of Utah's veteran big men Big Al or Milsap, changes everything, but as things stand now, I say bring back the band one more time and reup in the 2013 offseason or trade mid season 2012 if an opportunity presents itself.

Ray Allen for 6 million???and with a partially guaranteed 2nd year!!!...OMG, you have got to be kidding me... HE IS DONE...bone spurs or not at 37 yrs old the first thing that goes is your shooting touch...he will be lucky if he gets the midlevel of 3 million from contending teams

Lets just move on..I have appreciated Ray and everything he has done but time to move forward..im ready for AB 35 min per game.should ray stay he plays no more than 15 a game.

After watching game 7 in person Saturday and how horrible he was yesterday I agree 1000% that Ray Allen is absolutely done.  I was holding out hope that it is just the ankle injury, but at 37 age is definitely a factor.  I think he would be good to have around on a one year to have on your bench if he accepts it though knowing full well he should only get spot minutes.  I didn't say here on CB, but I was fully for the OJ Mayo trade and a 1st that Danny rejected from Memphis.  I bet Ainge wishes he pulled the trigger on that one.  Once again father time strikes another victim. . . 

Re: Next's year's roster
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2012, 11:22:23 AM »

Offline drax

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Are you sure DA rejected that offer (Mayo + 1st rounder)? I thought it was vice versa and MEM didnt want to give up a first rounder.