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Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?

Keyon Dooling
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Mikki Moore
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2012, 09:36:37 AM »

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Actually, neither ... that title would go to Marcus Landry, (though playing only three minutes is an unfair litmus, I'm sure many would say), followed by J.R. Giddens, then Scott Pollard or Mikki Moore, then ... well, a sentimental favorite who is just too darned popular to name, (without the chance of death threats to follow).

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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2012, 09:51:00 AM »

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Rasheed Wallace.

Not even close especially in hindsight. I can see JO on the list but not sheed.

I would certainly take a 7 footer right now who plays good defense 80 games out of an 82 game season. Not to mention the playoffs. He jacked up 3's and wasn't great on offense but he was a hell of a lot better than JO

Sheed's "good" defense is revisionists history. He had a handful of good games defensively in the play-offs and now all of a sudden he played great defense. The team scheme as a whole did a good job hiding him, but he was the weak link. In post up situation he wasn't too bad, but he loved to reach in. He'd play perfect defense on the post then end up giving up a foul because he just had to reach in. He gave away an amazing amount of and1's by trying to slap at the ball instead simply contesting the shot.

Sheed was not Mikki Moore bad, but he was not a good defender. O'neal is 10x the defender Sheed was when he was with us. Through the combination of his bad attitude, lack of effort, poor conditioning, terrible offense, and inconsistent defense I think he is in the conversation for the worst Celtic of the big 3 era.

Yeah I just couldn't disagree more. At the time I expected more. I thought he'd be a close to all star coming off the bench. He wasn't but looking back on it he was a pretty good back up.

Its funny talking about out of shape with the amount of games he played and minutes he got. Then you look at shaq last year who missed half the season and the playoffs. JO missing the season and playing 9a playoff games and then this year being none existent.

Sheed played more games that season than JO and Shaq combined.

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2012, 04:49:13 PM »

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Actually, neither ... that title would go to Marcus Landry, (though playing only three minutes is an unfair litmus, I'm sure many would say), followed by J.R. Giddens, then Scott Pollard or Mikki Moore, then ... well, a sentimental favorite who is just too darned popular to name, (without the chance of death threats to follow).

Sir, the White Mamba's effect on the game stretches beyond stats, beyond the court, beyond the realm of physics. It is a mystical force a step above the comprehension of mankind.

White Mamba was still not nearly as bad as Mikki Moore...my god that was a horrible experience.

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2012, 05:27:52 PM »

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I'm going with Patrick O'Bryant.  He stunk, and what's worse, we passed over Chris Andersen for him.


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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2012, 06:10:09 PM »

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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2012, 06:16:08 PM »

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Rasheed Wallace.

Not even close especially in hindsight. I can see JO on the list but not sheed.

I would certainly take a 7 footer right now who plays good defense 80 games out of an 82 game season. Not to mention the playoffs. He jacked up 3's and wasn't great on offense but he was a hell of a lot better than JO

Sheed's "good" defense is revisionists history. He had a handful of good games defensively in the play-offs and now all of a sudden he played great defense. The team scheme as a whole did a good job hiding him, but he was the weak link. In post up situation he wasn't too bad, but he loved to reach in. He'd play perfect defense on the post then end up giving up a foul because he just had to reach in. He gave away an amazing amount of and1's by trying to slap at the ball instead simply contesting the shot.

Sheed was not Mikki Moore bad, but he was not a good defender. O'neal is 10x the defender Sheed was when he was with us. Through the combination of his bad attitude, lack of effort, poor conditioning, terrible offense, and inconsistent defense I think he is in the conversation for the worst Celtic of the big 3 era.

Yeah I just couldn't disagree more. At the time I expected more. I thought he'd be a close to all star coming off the bench. He wasn't but looking back on it he was a pretty good back up.

Its funny talking about out of shape with the amount of games he played and minutes he got. Then you look at shaq last year who missed half the season and the playoffs. JO missing the season and playing 9a playoff games and then this year being none existent.

Sheed played more games that season than JO and Shaq combined.

Exactly.

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2012, 06:44:49 PM »

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JR Giddens.

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2012, 07:10:07 PM »

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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2012, 07:40:04 PM »

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Oh wait....deeerrr....Glen Davis.  I mean yeah Sheed was just trying to collect a check, but Glen was trying to steal. I mean he'd come into a game and shoot more shots than Ray Allen. Doc would tell him to stop and he wouldn't and he'd go like 2 for 26 and not learn, then pout and stuff. I definitely think he learned his act directly from Sheed, but still.
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2012, 07:46:50 PM »

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went with Mikki "Please don't hate me any" Moore.

pretty bad when a player's biggest contribution to a team is the nicknames used for him   8)

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2012, 07:47:50 PM »

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went with Mikki "Please don't hate me any" Moore.

pretty bad when a player's biggest contribution to a team is the nicknames used for him   8)
Scott Pollard contributed more with the Marrying Clam Chowder bit than some of the guys we've mentioned here

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2012, 07:49:56 PM »

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Oh wait....deeerrr....Glen Davis.  I mean yeah Sheed was just trying to collect a check, but Glen was trying to steal. I mean he'd come into a game and shoot more shots than Ray Allen. Doc would tell him to stop and he wouldn't and he'd go like 2 for 26 and not learn, then pout and stuff. I definitely think he learned his act directly from Sheed, but still.

I would take that game winning shot Big Baby had over Orlando in the playoffs, over an entire season of Dooling and Moore put together.
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Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2012, 08:00:25 PM »

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Oh wait....deeerrr....Glen Davis.  I mean yeah Sheed was just trying to collect a check, but Glen was trying to steal. I mean he'd come into a game and shoot more shots than Ray Allen. Doc would tell him to stop and he wouldn't and he'd go like 2 for 26 and not learn, then pout and stuff. I definitely think he learned his act directly from Sheed, but still.

I would take that game winning shot Big Baby had over Orlando in the playoffs, over an entire season of Dooling and Moore put together.
I guess being great once and horrific many many other times could be considered better than being very bad every time....hard to argue with that

Re: Who has been the worst Celtic of the Big 3 Era?
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2012, 08:24:33 PM »

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I'm going with Patrick O'Bryant.  He stunk, and what's worse, we passed over Chris Andersen for him.
To be semi-fair Birdman was just gettin ova a drug addiction so it woulda been a reach to sign him but POB was trash once he got punked by KG nd Perkins in practice I knew it was a wrap for dude. In a close 2nd is JR Giddens dude was horrible no jumper poor defense nd garbage basketball IQ we passed ova some talented players to take a flyer on dat clown