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Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« on: December 26, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »

Offline gpap

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Just curious, as this is not intended to stir anything.

I understand the Celtics just don't have the trade assets that alot of other NBA teams do, to land a star player like DH.

But between Rondo, Pierce, KG and JO's expiring contracts and the 2012 no 1 draft pick (which looks to be the Celts as the Clippers are going to be good team), are those enough chips to tempt Orlando to trade DH to Boston?

Just curious. I understand Howard wants either Lakers, Dallas or New Jersey. But out of all those teams, the Lakers are the only team that has tradeble assets. And, at this point I am not even sure if Orlando has anymore interest in Gasol or Bynum, or the trade would've happened by now.

Wondering what everyone's thoughs are. I would make this trade. Yes, the Celtics likely wouldn't win anything this year. But, at least you have a star player going forward you can build your team around. If you extend his contract, then other star players will want to come here and play with Howard.

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2011, 06:09:32 PM »

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I have no interest in building my team around Dwight Howard.  He's a dominant physical presence, but I don't trust him to have the right mentality to lead this basketball team.

I was never a huge fan, but lately I have been incredibly turned off by the way he has handled his situation in Orlando. 
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Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2011, 06:26:33 PM »

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To me it makes little sense for the Celtics to participate in the D12 trade process.

IMO our best bet would be hold off till the offseason hoping he hits the open market. At that point hopefully we could re-sign KG and Ray on the cheap and still pull a max contract for Dwight.

I think if he has the choice and is serious about winning, I can guarantee there would not be a better situation to come into than a lineup of:

Rondo
Ray
Pierce
KG
Dwight

not to mention we'll still have Bass as 6th man...pretty formidable squad.

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 06:45:33 PM »

Offline pearljammer10

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Love Howard but it would be hard to part with Rondo and Pierce for him seeing as the point in getting Howard here would be to pair him with Rondo... Not a fan of the deal.

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2011, 07:24:27 PM »

Offline gpap

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To me it makes little sense for the Celtics to participate in the D12 trade process.

IMO our best bet would be hold off till the offseason hoping he hits the open market. At that point hopefully we could re-sign KG and Ray on the cheap and still pull a max contract for Dwight.

I think if he has the choice and is serious about winning, I can guarantee there would not be a better situation to come into than a lineup of:

Rondo
Ray
Pierce
KG
Dwight

not to mention we'll still have Bass as 6th man...pretty formidable squad.

One problem with that. Dwight Howard will NOT come here as a free agent. At least if you trade for him, you give yourself enough time to convince him that Boston is the place he should spend the next 5-6 years of his career.

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 08:08:23 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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I think you can land Dwight via free-agency, and still keep most of the core. You just have to be creative, and can't give a lot to someone like KG or Allen.

I think what you'd do is sign KG for a X amount of deal, and then lose Allen's bird rights and go after Howard.

I would think they could rework Pierce's deal right, so that it's  a more back-loaded contract?

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 08:32:26 PM »

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I think you go after him in FA. Trading the team is not a smart move. No point, no go to guy at the end of the game why would he stay beyond this year????

Danny should send the big 4 after next year and make him understand this is were you win, then the endorsements come. Because thats what he's really about right now. Then hopefully some of the C's winning attitude rubs off. The team would be better than Brooklyn or La too.

Next year

  Rondo
  Allen
  Peirce/Green
  KG/Bass
  Howard

Year after
 
   Rondo
   Iguodala
   Green/Peirce
   J Smith/Bass
   Howard
   

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2011, 08:58:32 PM »

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Love Howard but it would be hard to part with Rondo and Pierce for him seeing as the point in getting Howard here would be to pair him with Rondo... Not a fan of the deal.

I've heard other fans make this point and I just don't understand it. I don't understand why it's so important that Pierce or Rondo are playing alongside Howard in Boston? Howard would make a good combo with whoever you put him with.

Rondo or Pierce doesn't make a difference.

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 09:02:03 PM »

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I think you go after him in FA. Trading the team is not a smart move. No point, no go to guy at the end of the game why would he stay beyond this year????

Danny should send the big 4 after next year and make him understand this is were you win, then the endorsements come. Because thats what he's really about right now. Then hopefully some of the C's winning attitude rubs off. The team would be better than Brooklyn or La too.

Next year

  Rondo
  Allen
  Peirce/Green
  KG/Bass
  Howard

Year after
 
   Rondo
   Iguodala
   Green/Peirce
   J Smith/Bass
   Howard
   

And again, to my original point, Howard will not come here as a free agent. Selling a player KG, Ray Allen, Pierce and Rondo will just not do it. Chris Paul preferred the Clippers and David West preferred the Pacers. I say the hell with them...but that's got to tell you that Boston is just not a desirable destination right now.

Just like I don't think KG would've ever come to Boston as a free agent, Danny had to trade for him.

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 09:03:49 PM »

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DA should be thinking :
Plan A: Trade for Dwight (two or multiple teams)
  AB/Moore, JJ, JO, Ray/KG, 2 1st rd picks for DH.. (this would take some skill and miracle)
Plan B: Sign Dwight in free agency (i'd say about a 25% chance)
Plan C: If we can't get Dwight, sign KLove, BLopez, Mayo, NYoung, EGordon, JThompson, Hibbert or other good FAs next season.. (good enough back-up plan)
Plan D: Trade one or both draft picks for a proven all-star..
DA has options.. It ain't 'Dwight Howard or bust'!

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 09:10:03 PM »

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To answer your question, no, that package would not interest Orlando.  JO and KG have little left.  PP is good but for how long?  The first doesnt have a whole lotta value.  And we already got a glimpse into what value rondo has.

Here is one thing I ask of fans proposing trades.  If YOU would make the trade, then it is probably lopsided in your favor. 

Besides, most teams unloading a star look to go young unless they have another star still there.

Re: Hypothetical question regarding Dwight Howard trade
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 09:21:09 PM »

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Love Howard but it would be hard to part with Rondo and Pierce for him seeing as the point in getting Howard here would be to pair him with Rondo... Not a fan of the deal.

I've heard other fans make this point and I just don't understand it. I don't understand why it's so important that Pierce or Rondo are playing alongside Howard in Boston? Howard would make a good combo with whoever you put him with.

Rondo or Pierce doesn't make a difference.

Like Jameer Nelson, Ryan Anderson, Hedo Turkoglu, and Jason Richardson, for example?
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