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Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2011, 12:54:52 PM »

Offline mgent

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I doubt it.  They love winning too much.  Our team's too good.  Injuries have taken the game out of their hands 3 years in a row.  They know we're due for a good luck streak.

Gotta admit the lockout probably only makes them happier.  How many times have we seen our team race out to the best record at the beginning of the season when they're fresh?

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Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2011, 03:56:24 PM »

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If you think about it, the one team that would actually benefit from half a season is the Celtics. The team has played an average of probably 90 + games every year since the trade and could use a rest. I think we're the big winners in a shortened season. If people believe anything different then go out and buy a Perkins Thunder Jersey and go root for them, we don't need ya. Boston fans love youth and toughness and I think fans in this town have a tendency to overvalue role players because of toughness and heart, rather than looking at stats. Example, on this board right now there is a thread asking if Dwight Howard would help us...

Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2011, 05:22:51 PM »

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I think it would be an interested thread topic (one I just don't feel like posting at the moment), whether a lost season might actually benefit the C's in the short-term and long-term. 

First, a lost season would decrease the likelihood of injury to our older players and increase the likelihood of rejuvinated legs in 2012-13.  KG and RA would be UFA's but still with allegiance to a team they both really want to stay with and win with.  Not to say they wouldn't leave for the right opportunity, but both could wait out the C's FA signings and then sign nice 1-year deals with the C's (assuming the new CBA will still have Bird rights).  Imagine signing FAs that would allow KG to come off the bench at 20-25 MPG in 2012-13. 

Additionally, the C's will have their current rookies (JJ with a year to bulk), Avery a year older (albeit without any additional NBA experience), and another draft to add more youth.  Paul Pierce with a year to mend I think will help his career. 

In addition to how this could help the C's, the Lakers and Heat also miss another year in their windows.

For those like me who fear that 2011-2012 is going to be a last gasp for the C's resulting in another early exit and depressed departures by KG and RA, a lost season may be just the right medicine for re-energizing this team and simultaneously not missing a step in the rebuilding process.  I'd hate to miss a season, but there may be a blessing in disguise for the local team.



 

Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2011, 10:46:47 PM »

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even if there is a full year lockout,
none of the Celtics will retire.
A year off would actually make them fresher
and stronger. People seem so focused on age,
but that's not the issue, it's the wear and tear.
Whether you are 34,35,36,or 37, the body is essentially
99% the same it was as the previous year.


hope you are right, but i'm not so sure about that. seemed to me that i have hit two age ranges after which it became much harder to either stay in shape or, much less, get back into good shape and those have been my mid-30's and my late 40's. just my experience, but don't we see a whole lot of athletes decline rapidly around that 32 - 34 age range. maybe it was the wear and tear catching up with them, but you know that age is also a big factor.

like everyone else, i would hate seeing this group retire with only one banner - every Celtic championship era has had at least two titles and i think this is a special team that deserves better than just one ring.
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Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2011, 04:20:05 PM »

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i recall KG saying in an interview earlier this year that if a lockout happens that he will retire. So yeah, It seems like everyone's going to retire. i really wish our Big 3 won one more ring before the end (like that game 7 in LA)..

Just got back from puking in the toilet thinking about that horrible night in LA. That will remain as a trouser chili stain until the Celtics win number 18.
The beatings will continue until morale improves

Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2011, 04:22:38 PM »

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i recall KG saying in an interview earlier this year that if a lockout happens that he will retire. So yeah, It seems like everyone's going to retire. i really wish our Big 3 won one more ring before the end (like that game 7 in LA)..

Just got back from puking in the toilet thinking about that horrible night in LA. That will remain as a trouser chili stain until the Celtics win number 18.

Even after they do it will still burn.
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Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2011, 07:41:41 PM »

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i recall KG saying in an interview earlier this year that if a lockout happens that he will retire. So yeah, It seems like everyone's going to retire. i really wish our Big 3 won one more ring before the end (like that game 7 in LA)..

Just got back from puking in the toilet thinking about that horrible night in LA. That will remain as a trouser chili stain until the Celtics win number 18.

Even after they do it will still burn.


Of all the losses I've experienced through the years, including Pats '07, this was the worst (note: not a Sox fan).

This tears at my guts every time I think of it.  Can't watch it again.  So close to shocking the world with number 18, only to lose it to that despicable franchise -- the one that now sits only 1 championship behind Boston. Makes me ill.

Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2011, 03:45:45 PM »

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for pierce to retire would be super stupid he's only like a year older than kobe and dirk


Re: Lockout = Massive celtics retirement party?
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2011, 04:51:01 PM »

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even if there is a full year lockout,
none of the Celtics will retire.
A year off would actually make them fresher
and stronger. People seem so focused on age,
but that's not the issue, it's the wear and tear.
Whether you are 34,35,36,or 37, the body is essentially
99% the same it was as the previous year.


r u kiddin? Maybe some reliable stats would suffice. My guess is at a certain age say 30 the athlete that's been pounding it 10-15 years is aging physically at least 2 to one.