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Re: Submit Your Chris Paul Ideas Here
« Reply #120 on: May 14, 2011, 03:29:05 PM »

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Honestly I'd give up Rondo and the LAC #1 without a guarantee that Paul signs an extension.  I'd give it one more go next year in that situation and see what happened.  I would certainly push hard for Paul to sign an extension before becoming a free agent, but if he elected to move on, then so be it and the C's go into full on rebuilding with the rest of the 2012 free agent class and/or lottery picks going forward (Pierce might retire if the C's don't land anyone of note in 2012, which would make the team awful leading to a high draft pick).

Next year is the last window with this group, you either have to go all in or blow it up this summer.  The status quo just won't work.


Very well said. Simply bringing back the big 3 and adding a couple of mid to lower tier players just won't do anything.

It's a lateral move and the Celtics are getting bounced again in the second round of the playoffs this time next year.

Danny Ainge needs to be really bold and creative this offseason for there to be anything more than a glimmer of hope next year.

Either go all in and trade for a big name to complement the team, EVEN if he only has one year remaining under contract OR blow it up.

CP in place of Rondo isn't going to be enough to carry the geriatrics to a championship next year.  Danny needs to find out which of his Big Three has the greatest trade value and pare them down to Two.  They want JO back, Green to start and to somehow get another starter back in the trade.  Then one of the two geriatrics comes off the bench.

Re: Submit Your Chris Paul Ideas Here
« Reply #121 on: May 14, 2011, 03:30:32 PM »

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I'm just not totally sold on Chris Paul ... If Chris Paul dislocates his elbow in game 4 I don't think he has the toughness to do what Rondo did ... I honestly think in a 2 game hole he doesn't come back at all ... And if Rondo could just get this stupid jumper down ... this thread wouldn't even be here.

Re: Submit Your Chris Paul Ideas Here
« Reply #122 on: May 14, 2011, 03:35:33 PM »

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Chris Paul to the Lakers for Pau Gasol.  After two months, Paul is deemed to have worse knees than Brandon Roy.  The Lakers find themselves in salary cap hell due to the long-term extension Paul signed.
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Re: Submit Your Chris Paul Ideas Here
« Reply #123 on: May 14, 2011, 03:46:41 PM »

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Honestly I'd give up Rondo and the LAC #1 without a guarantee that Paul signs an extension.  I'd give it one more go next year in that situation and see what happened.  I would certainly push hard for Paul to sign an extension before becoming a free agent, but if he elected to move on, then so be it and the C's go into full on rebuilding with the rest of the 2012 free agent class and/or lottery picks going forward (Pierce might retire if the C's don't land anyone of note in 2012, which would make the team awful leading to a high draft pick).

Next year is the last window with this group, you either have to go all in or blow it up this summer.  The status quo just won't work.


Very well said. Simply bringing back the big 3 and adding a couple of mid to lower tier players just won't do anything.

It's a lateral move and the Celtics are getting bounced again in the second round of the playoffs this time next year.

Danny Ainge needs to be really bold and creative this offseason for there to be anything more than a glimmer of hope next year.

Either go all in and trade for a big name to complement the team, EVEN if he only has one year remaining under contract OR blow it up.

CP in place of Rondo isn't going to be enough to carry the geriatrics to a championship next year.  Danny needs to find out which of his Big Three has the greatest trade value and pare them down to Two.  They want JO back, Green to start and to somehow get another starter back in the trade.  Then one of the two geriatrics comes off the bench.

First off, why can't CP3 carry them? If anything, he can score and make bench players look decent, taking pressure off the Big Three. They would see less PT throughout the regular season, and a lot less double-teams.

I don't think trading any of the Big Three will be traded unless Ainge's socks get blown into the Atlantic Ocean.



As for Moranis' idea of trading not only Rondo, but the Clips pick with no guarantee of an extension from CP3, that's a terrible idea IMO. You are giving yourself just one shot at a championship at the expense of a perennial all-star and a potentially valuable pick. If he or one of the Big Three get hurt, it was all for naught.

Horrible, horrible idea. Going into full rebuilding mode without your best young player or draft pick? Doesn't make any sense.

Ainge wouldn't trade a pretty good Big Al, expiring contracts, and junk for KG when he had two years left, you think he is trading Rondo for Paul with only one? NOT happening.
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Re: Submit Your Chris Paul Ideas Here
« Reply #124 on: May 14, 2011, 04:12:03 PM »

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Are we going to turn into a fan base that values draft picks Again??  No, please not that.  The NBA draft is no garuntee at all.  How many busts are in the 1st round every year again.  I'd trade that Clippers pick with Green for another veteran All star in a heartbeat.  That's how you put yourself in position to win a championship.  Unless you have the #1 pick and there's a Derek Rose or Tim Duncan, or you luck into Durant you package those assets to get a Paul.  It's the organization's job to convince  him to sign an extension.  Let Rondo's free throw shooting, jump shooting, and moodyness be someone else's problem.  Give me Paul, a high character guy to boot, every day of the week.  Free agents like D12 will want to play with Paul , he's more thought of in the NBA than Rondo, IMO.  Chris Paul would be a great Celtic no doubt.  And no more Kobe and others sagging off our point guard either, a welcome sight indeed.
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« Reply #125 on: May 14, 2011, 04:39:24 PM »

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Are we going to turn into a fan base that values draft picks Again??  No, please not that.  The NBA draft is no garuntee at all.  How many busts are in the 1st round every year again.  I'd trade that Clippers pick with Green for another veteran All star in a heartbeat.  That's how you put yourself in position to win a championship.  Unless you have the #1 pick and there's a Derek Rose or Tim Duncan, or you luck into Durant you package those assets to get a Paul.  It's the organization's job to convince  him to sign an extension.  Let Rondo's free throw shooting, jump shooting, and moodyness be someone else's problem.  Give me Paul, a high character guy to boot, every day of the week.  Free agents like D12 will want to play with Paul , he's more thought of in the NBA than Rondo, IMO.  Chris Paul would be a great Celtic no doubt.  And no more Kobe and others sagging off our point guard either, a welcome sight indeed.

That ship has sailed. It worked in 2008 and even 2009 because the Big Three were in their prime (the tail end). Now, you can't just keep getting older.

We effectively went from Perk and 'Sheed to JO and Shaq. With a core being 34, 35, and 36, we need to get young guys around them. There's a big different between 34-35-36 and 30-31-32 like the Big Three were when they came together.
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Re: Submit Your Chris Paul Ideas Here
« Reply #126 on: May 15, 2011, 12:13:30 PM »

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To anyone in this thread who thinks Rondo is just as good as Paul, remember this..

In 2005 Danny Ainge offered Paul Pierce at 28 years old, in his prime for another 5 years for the chance to move into the high lottery specifically for the chance to draft Chris Paul.

I don't think Rondo will ever be as good as PP in his prime, so if you are willing to move PP you have to be willing to move Rondo.


It the right move to if Paul becomes available you have to get him into a Green uniform. They are just about the same age, but Paul is a cornerstone for the franchise and it also sets up the domino effect of other superstars wanting to team up with Paul. M

Dwight Howard would have to think very hard about joining the C's if we have a championship coach with Doc at the helm for the next 5 years and a superstar PG that will get Howard so many easy looks( remember all those alley oops he used to get with Tyson Chandler? just imagine how many Howard would get). Also KG PP and Ray could easily make the transition to elite role players with 2 studs like that in the lineup( although I think KG would likely retire )

This has got to be the plan for Danny, that's why picking up a young talent like Jeff Green and the 2012 clippers pick is so important. Danny knows that with Perk under contract for 9 mil a year he would have tied up cap space and also would not have any valuable chips to trade to try and acquire a new superstar(s)

Remember how we had to acquire Ray 1st to make Boston a more desirable place for KG to come to? Well that's the same scenario here . Acquire Paul and you become the frontrunners to land Dwight Howard IMO.

2012 Roster
PG: Paul / Bradley
SG: West / Ray
SF: PP   / FA or Draft pick
PF: MLE or draft pick(KG will likely retire)
 C: Howard

I think that team can definitely contend for a title and it would be the old guys Ray and PP passing the torch to the C's future Paul and Howard

Get it done Danny!