A bit of realism

[BballTim]

1.  The Celtics will not have HCA after the 2nd round.  It's very likely they won't have it after the 1st round.

2. The Celtics aren't going to defeat the Lakers without HCA.

3. Despite #2, the Celtics will probably have to defeat the Lakers without HCA in order to win it all this year.

  SO you've given up on the season, and you're hoping to convince others to do so as well?

[GreenFaith1819]

1.  The Celtics will not have HCA after the 2nd round.  It's very likely they won't have it after the 1st round.

2. The Celtics aren't going to defeat the Lakers without HCA.

3. Despite #2, the Celtics will probably have to defeat the Lakers without HCA in order to win it all this year.

Hey Pos...aren't your 2 and 3 kinda contradicting one another?

It's ok to call it as you see it, but didn't we almost miraculously do what you just said we couldn't do?

That's why I love these Celtics - even after last night. Still can't count them out.

[Assassin70]

Assassin:  Just because you come in to the chat room and I appreciate it, and I don't want your reality to be questioned............

 "Gerald Green"


 

  TP for TB

[Assassin70]

1.  The Celtics will not have HCA after the 2nd round.  It's very likely they won't have it after the 1st round.

2. The Celtics aren't going to defeat the Lakers without HCA.

3. Despite #2, the Celtics will probably have to defeat the Lakers without HCA in order to win it all this year.

Hey Pos...aren't your 2 and 3 kinda contradicting one another?

It's ok to call it as you see it, but didn't we almost miraculously do what you just said we couldn't do?

That's why I love these Celtics - even after last night. Still can't count them out.

I haven't given up hope until I see our starters not on the floor...and we are down double digits of a close out game in the other teams favor.

Until that scenario happens (hope it doesn't) I will always have hope.

[GreenFaith1819]

Even with the game last night - I can see some parallels between CHI and CLE from last year...CHI plays great defense (like CLE did last year)....they have a nearly unstoppable force in DRose (Like CLE had in Lebron did last year).

I think the talent level overall is better with CHI than CLE last year - even though I'd take Andy Varejao over Boozer AND Joakim any day.

CHI coaching is IMO - slightly better than CLE's last year. I thought Mike Brown did an admirable job there, though.

All I'm saying is - DRose had a huge part in beating us last night. Throughout Celtics History they've proven that no one player can beat them - especially when it counts.

I just think DRose will be the latest in the long line of great players that will find out that you can't beat Boston by yourself.

Last night was but a chapter in the Celtics' book this season. There is still a lot to write in this book. I'm anxious to see the ending, myself.

[Prof. Clutch]

Even with the game last night - I can see some parallels between CHI and CLE from last year...CHI plays great defense (like CLE did last year)....they have a nearly unstoppable force in DRose (Like CLE had in Lebron did last year).

I think the talent level overall is better with CHI than CLE last year - even though I'd take Andy Varejao over Boozer AND Joakim any day.

CHI coaching is IMO - slightly better than CLE's last year. I thought Mike Brown did an admirable job there, though.

All I'm saying is - DRose had a huge part in beating us last night. Throughout Celtics History they've proven that no one player can beat them - especially when it counts.

I just think DRose will be the latest in the long line of great players that will find out that you can't beat Boston by yourself.

Last night was but a chapter in the Celtics' book this season. There is still a lot to write in this book. I'm anxious to see the ending, myself.

Wish I could give you multiple TP's for this post.

[GreenFaith1819]

Even with the game last night - I can see some parallels between CHI and CLE from last year...CHI plays great defense (like CLE did last year)....they have a nearly unstoppable force in DRose (Like CLE had in Lebron did last year).

I think the talent level overall is better with CHI than CLE last year - even though I'd take Andy Varejao over Boozer AND Joakim any day.

CHI coaching is IMO - slightly better than CLE's last year. I thought Mike Brown did an admirable job there, though.

All I'm saying is - DRose had a huge part in beating us last night. Throughout Celtics History they've proven that no one player can beat them - especially when it counts.

I just think DRose will be the latest in the long line of great players that will find out that you can't beat Boston by yourself.

Last night was but a chapter in the Celtics' book this season. There is still a lot to write in this book. I'm anxious to see the ending, myself.

Wish I could give you multiple TP's for this post.

Thanks, Professor.

Michael Jordan proved to me (way back in the 80's) that you can't beat Boston by yourself. His 63 pts against us in that triple overtime loss proved that to me.

Lebron proved that to me last year (and this year, too).

DRose, while a great talent, is no better than Michael Jordan or Lebron James.

Boston will figure him out.

[PosImpos]

1.  The Celtics will not have HCA after the 2nd round.  It's very likely they won't have it after the 1st round.

2. The Celtics aren't going to defeat the Lakers without HCA.

3. Despite #2, the Celtics will probably have to defeat the Lakers without HCA in order to win it all this year.

Hey Pos...aren't your 2 and 3 kinda contradicting one another?

It's ok to call it as you see it, but didn't we almost miraculously do what you just said we couldn't do?

That's why I love these Celtics - even after last night. Still can't count them out.

The whole point is that #2 and #3 contradict.  We can't win.

And yeah, we almost did it last year.  Almost.  We couldn't make it all the way.  I haven't seen anything this year to make me think we're in any better position to go farther than we did last season.

[jbsprinter1]

1.  The Celtics will not have HCA after the 2nd round.  It's very likely they won't have it after the 1st round.

2. The Celtics aren't going to defeat the Lakers without HCA.

3. Despite #2, the Celtics will probably have to defeat the Lakers without HCA in order to win it all this year.

Hey Pos...aren't your 2 and 3 kinda contradicting one another?

It's ok to call it as you see it, but didn't we almost miraculously do what you just said we couldn't do?

That's why I love these Celtics - even after last night. Still can't count them out.

The whole point is that #2 and #3 contradict.  We can't win.

And yeah, we almost did it last year.  Almost.  We couldn't make it all the way.  I haven't seen anything this year to make me think we're in any better position to go farther than we did last season.

I can name a few things.

1. We'll be the 2nd/3rd seed, not 4th.

2. 2011 Sixers < 2010 Heat. 2011 Heat < 2010 Cavs. I do think the Bulls are better than last year's Magic, but they're not playoff tested, and the playoffs are a whole different ball game. Also, we've shown that we can stop a one-man team. If Rose is going to beat us, it's going to be because he got help from everyone else on that team.

3. We managed to obtain this record without being healthy all season. Who knows what'll happen if we have 15 strong in the playoffs (that is a big if). The point is, we DON'T know what's going to happen.

4. We beat the contenders more often than last year. They only started slacking at the end of the season (which everyone expected).

None of these things guarantees a championship. But they sure as heck make the situation look a lot better than last year.

[GreenFaith1819]

1.  The Celtics will not have HCA after the 2nd round.  It's very likely they won't have it after the 1st round.

2. The Celtics aren't going to defeat the Lakers without HCA.

3. Despite #2, the Celtics will probably have to defeat the Lakers without HCA in order to win it all this year.

Hey Pos...aren't your 2 and 3 kinda contradicting one another?

It's ok to call it as you see it, but didn't we almost miraculously do what you just said we couldn't do?

That's why I love these Celtics - even after last night. Still can't count them out.

The whole point is that #2 and #3 contradict.  We can't win.

And yeah, we almost did it last year.  Almost.  We couldn't make it all the way.  I haven't seen anything this year to make me think we're in any better position to go farther than we did last season.

"we can't win"....win what? The Championship?

A little early, huh bud?

[BballTim]

1.  The Celtics will not have HCA after the 2nd round.  It's very likely they won't have it after the 1st round.

2. The Celtics aren't going to defeat the Lakers without HCA.

3. Despite #2, the Celtics will probably have to defeat the Lakers without HCA in order to win it all this year.

Hey Pos...aren't your 2 and 3 kinda contradicting one another?

It's ok to call it as you see it, but didn't we almost miraculously do what you just said we couldn't do?

That's why I love these Celtics - even after last night. Still can't count them out.

The whole point is that #2 and #3 contradict.  We can't win.

And yeah, we almost did it last year.  Almost.  We couldn't make it all the way.  I haven't seen anything this year to make me think we're in any better position to go farther than we did last season.

  We could have made it all the way, we just didn't.

[PosImpos]

I don't think any team has even a decent chance of winning the Finals without HCA in the 2-3-2 format unless they are substantially, head-and-shoulders better than the other team.

Unless one of the lower level teams in the West goes on a ridiculous run and knocks off the upper tier teams, that won't happen.

The good news, though, is that if the Bulls manage to get to the Finals they'll probably have HCA unless they're against the Spurs.

[GreenFaith1819]

I don't think any team has even a decent chance of winning the Finals without HCA in the 2-3-2 format unless they are substantially, head-and-shoulders better than the other team.

Unless one of the lower level teams in the West goes on a ridiculous run and knocks off the upper tier teams, that won't happen.

The good news, though, is that if the Bulls manage to get to the Finals they'll probably have HCA unless they're against the Spurs.

So you are ready to discount last year's memorable run just because we didn't bring home Banner 18?

Yes - it was disappointing to lose to the Lakers. But I tell you what - I'll always refer to last season when I talk to my sons about sports - and not giving up - giving it all you have.

To that point, Boston did in fact win Banner 18 - to me. They got as far as they got against the odds. ESPN, NBATV - no one thought they'd get past CLE or ORL.

Some did not even give us 3 games vs LA last year.

To me - Boston did in fact win it. When comparing our run last year to say the 90's or early 2000's Celtics? We had in fact a great run. It's the struggle that I respect the most.

[zerophase]

Whenever a team wins a championship... I feel that it's always one of those dream season scenarios where everything just goes right. that's what it felt like in '08. we got off to a dream start, stayed healthy... we did things like break the Houston win streak, sweep the texas triangle, everything just felt magically perfect. This year started out that way, but has just fallen apart. It just doesn't feel like a championship year anymore.

[Prof. Clutch]

Whenever a team wins a championship... I feel that it's always one of those dream season scenarios where everything just goes right. that's what it felt like in '08. we got off to a dream start, stayed healthy... we did things like break the Houston win streak, sweep the texas triangle, everything just felt magically perfect. This year started out that way, but has just fallen apart. It just doesn't feel like a championship year anymore.

I feel you, but of course it's not always like that for Championship teams.  I mean, look at Cleveland in 2008-09.  2 home losses all season, HCA throughout the playoffs.  That was pretty much a dream season for them and it didn't go anywhere.