Jeff Green's Production with Durant out

[LarBrd33]

I think Jeff Green is a stud.  I think he's a stud getting overshadowed by a couple phenoms in OKC.  Green is a SF who has been forced to play PF in OKC.  I was curious how he's produced in games when Durant was out with injuries.  My hunch was that he would have produced some big numbers.  Unfortunately, Durant doesn't miss a ton of games.  In the last 3 years since Durant has been a "star", there has only been 7 games in which Jeff Green got to play without him.     

Jeff Green's stats:


08-09 season:

L 11/12/08 - 25 points, 10 rebounds, (7-18 shooting)
L 2/27/09 - 28 points, 12 rebounds, (9-20 shooting)
W 2/28/09 - 27 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists (8-20 shooting)
W 3/10/09 - 22 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists (6-13 shooting)
L 3/11/09 - 19 points, 7 rebounds (5-12 shooting)
 

10-11 season:
W 12/1/10 -  37 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists (12-21 shooting)
L 12/3/10 - 17 points, 4 rebounds, 7 assists (6-14 shooting)


So in 7 games he's managed to average 25 points, 7.7 rebounds 45% shooting ... Worth noting? 

I think the guy ends up being a fringe all-star in the post-"Big 3" lotto Celtics era.

[blueandgold]

I think Jeff Green is a stud.  I think he's a stud getting overshadowed by a couple phenoms in OKC.  Green is a SF who has been forced to play PF in OKC.  I was curious how he's produced in games when Durant was out with injuries.  My hunch was that he would have produced some big numbers.  Unfortunately, Durant doesn't miss a ton of games.  In the last 3 years since Durant has been a "star", there has only been 7 games in which Jeff Green got to play without him.     

Jeff Green's stats:


08-09 season:

L 11/12/08 - 25 points, 10 rebounds, (7-18 shooting)
L 2/27/09 - 28 points, 12 rebounds, (9-20 shooting)
W 2/28/09 - 27 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists (8-20 shooting)
W 3/10/09 - 22 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists (6-13 shooting)
L 3/11/09 - 19 points, 7 rebounds (5-12 shooting)
 

10-11 season:
W 12/1/10 -  37 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists (12-21 shooting)
L 12/3/10 - 17 points, 4 rebounds, 7 assists (6-14 shooting)


So in 7 games he's managed to average 25 points, 7.7 rebounds 45% shooting ... Worth noting? 

I think the guy ends up being a fringe all-star in the post-"Big 3" lotto Celtics era.

Worth noting but also might be too small of a sample size.

[steve]

Good find!  That actually makes me feel better about the trade.  I assume he switched to the 3 in those games?

[Celtics4ever]

Maybe Danny thinks KG  and PP will retire after this season if we win and he wanted something to build around Rondo with.   He is privy to more information than we know.   

[Yin]

That's actually pretty [dang] good.

[gift]

going in to the '07 draft, danny indicated there was one really talented player who was hampered by the system he played in... speculation was that player was jeff green.

i think danny still sees the potential in jeff green as much as he looks at his nba production so far.  he may agree that jeff green is a borderline star for the future (especially paired with rondo who will certainly get him the ball much better than westbrook), and a very good role player for today.

[CoachBo]

An excellent find which illustrates one of my points that's been falling on deaf ears around here: Green's been playing in a two-man iso-heavy system with two ball-stoppers, a system that's absolutely nothing like the ball reversal and movement that Doc preaches.

It'll all shake itself out soon, and the fan attachment to Perkins will fade.

I feel really good about the move. The Celtics didn't like Perkins' price, or his legs, and they got excellent value for him.

[Rondo2287]

An excellent find which illustrates one of my points that's been falling on deaf ears around here: Green's been playing in a two-man iso-heavy system with two ball-stoppers, a system that's absolutely nothing like the ball reversal and movement that Doc preaches.

It'll all shake itself out soon, and the fan attachment to Perkins will fade.

I feel really good about the move. The Celtics didn't like Perkins' price, or his legs, and they got excellent value for him.

TP for all the good points, while people may question the fit and where this leaves us at the Center position I think we can all agree that Jeff Green is very good value for him

[greenpride32]

Green is a very talented player.  I think most people who think this trade is a failure don't realize that and haven't actually seen him play.  Additionally he fills our biggest need (a backup 3) and we already have size (though most is currently injured at the moment). 

I respect the loyalty the fans have shown to Perk, but he is nowhere near Green's class in terms of pure talent. 

[hwangjini_1]

I think Jeff Green is a stud.  I think he's a stud getting overshadowed by a couple phenoms in OKC.  Green is a SF who has been forced to play PF in OKC.  I was curious how he's produced in games when Durant was out with injuries.  My hunch was that he would have produced some big numbers.  Unfortunately, Durant doesn't miss a ton of games.  In the last 3 years since Durant has been a "star", there has only been 7 games in which Jeff Green got to play without him.    

Jeff Green's stats:


08-09 season:

L 11/12/08 - 25 points, 10 rebounds, (7-18 shooting)
L 2/27/09 - 28 points, 12 rebounds, (9-20 shooting)
W 2/28/09 - 27 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists (8-20 shooting)
W 3/10/09 - 22 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists (6-13 shooting)
L 3/11/09 - 19 points, 7 rebounds (5-12 shooting)
 

10-11 season:
W 12/1/10 -  37 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists (12-21 shooting)
L 12/3/10 - 17 points, 4 rebounds, 7 assists (6-14 shooting)


So in 7 games he's managed to average 25 points, 7.7 rebounds 45% shooting ... Worth noting?  

I think the guy ends up being a fringe all-star in the post-"Big 3" lotto Celtics era.

Great research and post. Small sample be darned, these are encouraging number for green. After reading and thinking about the trade, it seems to me that once I put my "perk-love" aside, ainge did a good job.

The celtics may be currently weaker against the magic, but Howard still will not beat the celtics if the celtics shut down their outside shooting. Green helps the celtics against the heat and Chicago, without doubt.

It also give a partial bridge into the future.

It broke my heart, but I agree with ainge once more.

Now, if only Murphy and rip walk through that door, life is good.

[greg_kite]

An excellent find which illustrates one of my points that's been falling on deaf ears around here: Green's been playing in a two-man iso-heavy system with two ball-stoppers, a system that's absolutely nothing like the ball reversal and movement that Doc preaches.

It'll all shake itself out soon, and the fan attachment to Perkins will fade.

I feel really good about the move. The Celtics didn't like Perkins' price, or his legs, and they got excellent value for him.

Don't forget his bum shoulder too.

People are also forgetting that Perk didn't just miss game 7 this year but also missed a couple games in the '08 Finals.  So people worried about Shaq and J.O. missing time should have been just as worried about Perk missing time.

[gar]

I think Jeff Green is a stud.  I think he's a stud getting overshadowed by a couple phenoms in OKC.  Green is a SF who has been forced to play PF in OKC.  I was curious how he's produced in games when Durant was out with injuries.  My hunch was that he would have produced some big numbers.  Unfortunately, Durant doesn't miss a ton of games.  In the last 3 years since Durant has been a "star", there has only been 7 games in which Jeff Green got to play without him.     

Jeff Green's stats:


08-09 season:

L 11/12/08 - 25 points, 10 rebounds, (7-18 shooting)
L 2/27/09 - 28 points, 12 rebounds, (9-20 shooting)
W 2/28/09 - 27 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists (8-20 shooting)
W 3/10/09 - 22 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists (6-13 shooting)
L 3/11/09 - 19 points, 7 rebounds (5-12 shooting)
 

10-11 season:
W 12/1/10 -  37 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists (12-21 shooting)
L 12/3/10 - 17 points, 4 rebounds, 7 assists (6-14 shooting)


So in 7 games he's managed to average 25 points, 7.7 rebounds 45% shooting ... Worth noting? 

I think the guy ends up being a fringe all-star in the post-"Big 3" lotto Celtics era.

TP My thoughts as well. He is much better than Perk ever will be. Question for this season is how the chemistry will be and if/how we patch the hole left in the middle. If JO cannot play PF (lack of mobility) will be critical to get Mr. Murphy.

[Edgar]

Even with Durant he post some 30 plus and double double a lot of times
even in his rookie year.
The kid is better and far the best playuer on the trade
people will love him here
after...,mmmm... one game

[Fan from VT]

I think Jeff Green is a stud.  I think he's a stud getting overshadowed by a couple phenoms in OKC.  Green is a SF who has been forced to play PF in OKC.  I was curious how he's produced in games when Durant was out with injuries.  My hunch was that he would have produced some big numbers.  Unfortunately, Durant doesn't miss a ton of games.  In the last 3 years since Durant has been a "star", there has only been 7 games in which Jeff Green got to play without him.    

Jeff Green's stats:


08-09 season:

L 11/12/08 - 25 points, 10 rebounds, (7-18 shooting)
L 2/27/09 - 28 points, 12 rebounds, (9-20 shooting)
W 2/28/09 - 27 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists (8-20 shooting)
W 3/10/09 - 22 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists (6-13 shooting)
L 3/11/09 - 19 points, 7 rebounds (5-12 shooting)
 

10-11 season:
W 12/1/10 -  37 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists (12-21 shooting)
L 12/3/10 - 17 points, 4 rebounds, 7 assists (6-14 shooting)


So in 7 games he's managed to average 25 points, 7.7 rebounds 45% shooting ... Worth noting?  

I think the guy ends up being a fringe all-star in the post-"Big 3" lotto Celtics era.

Great research and post. Small sample be darned, these are encouraging number for green. After reading and thinking about the trade, it seems to me that once I put my "perk-love" aside, ainge did a good job.

The celtics may be currently weaker against the magic, but Howard still will not beat the celtics if the celtics shut down their outside shooting. Green helps the celtics against the heat and Chicago, without doubt.

It also give a partial bridge into the future.

It broke my heart, but I agree with ainge once more.

Now, if only Murphy and rip walk through that door, life is good.

That's encouraging for the future, but why is it encouraging that we just got a guy who plays better when he's the focus of the offense and plays big minutes to fill a role off the bench?

I guess we're set if Pierce gets injured.

Indisputable fact: OKC/Seattle was better each of the past 4 years with Green off the court than on. I hope it's because he was playing out of position most of the time, but that's less than encouraging.