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Re: KG's injury hurt BBD more?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2011, 04:26:04 PM »

Offline housecall

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Well, I think it surely ended the debate on whether BBD is an NBA starter-level talent on a good-to-great team.  [The answer is no]

But there is a corollary to this....

When Red Auerbach "invented" the "6th starter" role, it meant taking a starter-level talent player and bring them off the bench to ensure 48 minutes of attack basketball.  Then some other, less-talented player starts, but they're deficiencies are covered by the abilities of the other 4 actual starters.  That was one of the genius things Red came up with.  Nowadays, Jason Terry (and Ginobli in recent seasons) would be great examples of starter-caliber players coming off the bench.

So...If BBD is not a starter, then he's not a "6th starter", either.  A good rotation player, yes.  "6th starter", no.  He is definitely and clearly a bench player.

So, to the OP, yes, KG's absence hurt BBD, who might have been able to convince some GM this summer that he's worth more than he is.  I'd say this past couple of weeks may have cost him millions of dollars (that he probably wouldn't have deserved either way).

Edited to remove gender bias.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out BBD is not starter material long term.I disagree with any GM using a snapshot of BBD or any player to judge whether or not they want him on their team.I feel most GM's knew long before this past couple weeks about who BBD was as a player.Its mainly fans that try making him into more than what he is.
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Re: KG's injury hurt BBD more?
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2011, 04:32:18 PM »

Offline Spilling Green Dye

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Davis' game got exposed when KG was out and he exposed that he might not get much better than he is now and that with more minutes he is more focused on shots then rebounds.

There are those who said this about BBD before KG was injured.

Yuuup, but we got labeled as "haters".  I encourage everyone, including BBD, to reach for the stars and expect to be the best.  The only problem with BBD is that he doesn't realize where he is.. he thinks he's practically there.  Work hard big fella, play your game!

Re: KG's injury hurt BBD more?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2011, 05:31:46 PM »

Offline The DarkPassenger

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Well, I think it surely ended the debate on whether BBD is an NBA starter-level talent on a good-to-great team.  [The answer is no]

But there is a corollary to this....

When Red Auerbach "invented" the "6th starter" role, it meant taking a starter-level talent player and bring them off the bench to ensure 48 minutes of attack basketball.  Then some other, less-talented player starts, but they're deficiencies are covered by the abilities of the other 4 actual starters.  That was one of the genius things Red came up with.  Nowadays, Jason Terry (and Ginobli in recent seasons) would be great examples of starter-caliber players coming off the bench.

So...If BBD is not a starter, then he's not a "6th starter", either.  A good rotation player, yes.  "6th starter", no.  He is definitely and clearly a bench player.

So, to the OP, yes, KG's absence hurt BBD, who might have been able to convince some GM this summer that he's worth more than he is.  I'd say this past couple of weeks may have cost him millions of dollars (that he probably wouldn't have deserved either way).

Edited to remove gender bias.

Agreed. That's what I was trying to say.
When Davis buries his ego and plays within his talent then he'll be fine... although I'll probably still close my eyes every time he puts up a shot.
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Re: KG's injury hurt BBD more?
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2011, 11:20:44 AM »

Offline mmbaby

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Nothing exposed here. Baby has already proven himself as KG's sub in previous seasons and is playing at a higher level this season. I think the reason for his shot not going is plain ole nervousness. This is a big year for him.
Others around here do feel he is starter material and that includes commentators that are not here.

Re: KG's injury hurt BBD more?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2011, 12:09:56 PM »

Offline billysan

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I think we sometimes forget that Glen Davis was a second round draft choice for a good reason. We (the Celtics) have managed to maximize his talents, help him lose weight and develop a moderate midrange shot.

He is still undersized (in length), not very athletic and has a young BBIQ. The guy has a huge heart and plays above his head a lot IMO. He usually give us 110% effort. He has been a Hero for us countless times and Goat just as often.

I love watching him play, but I have always thought we were overrating him everytime we called him a starter. He is at his best as a role player and he should always be a bench player except in these extreme circumstances of injury.

To ask him to do more than be a role player or let him believe he should have a bigger role is a path to disapointment for everyone and unfair to him.
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