JO out 2-3 weeks

[CelticHooligan3]

The guy needs to suck it up and get on the court. He's searching for different answers from different doctors and getting the same feedback from everyone. That tells you somthing.. The guy has a very low pain threshhold and he's soft. Everyone plays with these type of nagging injuries. He needs to grow some. He's seen doctors in Boston Miami and now New York.

They've all said there's no serious damage. To me it came off sounding as if he didn't trust the first opinions of the doctors in Boston so he wanted to get "his" doctors to look at it. So he went to get other opinions. But they've all had the same consensus. That means the issue is more with the player rather than the diagnosis or docs.   

He doesn't strike me as the type of guy who's looking for an easy way out.  Didn't he shoot like 1-6 for two straight games?  That's when
he shut it down and said I can't play effectively, I'm doing more harm them help to this team by staying on the court.  I suspect he's getting more opinions to determine the problem and find a long term solution.  Rather than docs telling him it's fine and then it's not.

No he's been struggling horribly from the field since last years playoffs. Even in preseason. I love what he's given us on defense when he's been out there. And I know he has the offensive potential. But I think he's soft and doesn't want to play in any type of pain. To me that's not fair because most of the guys on our team are either in the same amount he's in right now. Or willing to just play through it. A guy like perk strikes me as an individual where this wouldn't even come up in media reports because he wouldn't want it to and he'd see it as unneccasary. Perk would probably look at it like I don't want my opponent knowing I have any nicks or weaknesses cause they'll feed on that. Jermaine to me has Brett favre syndrome. He needs us all to know his uncomfort.

I say suck it up grow some and play the game before you start to alienate yourself with your teammates. No one wants a guy in the trenches next to them they deem as weak. He runs the risk of doing that to me because all of his doctors have said the same thing. And you gotta beleive all of our starters and bench guys are playing with bumps bruises and other nagging uncomfortable injuries and playing through it. If it was a serious injury one of the numerous doctors would have found it and I'd see where he's coming from. But the consensus has all been that it's nothing serious. Just swelling and pain. Earn your paycheck buddy and grow a pair. Do you think Bird or McHale would keep their mouth shut to a big softy like that? I certainly don't think so. And it would be right of them to call him out or drag his bedridden ass onto the court.

[SalmonAndMashedPotatoes]

Here's what's happening: 

JO has undergone all the necessary tests and conferred with doctors from both the Celtics and the Heat and so far all doctors are in agreement--there's nothing structurally wrong with JO's knee.  He just needs rest.

The problem is, JO's knee is still mysteriously swelling, something the docs are chalking up to 'normal wear and tear' and a possible 'arthritic condition'.

As of now, due to the level of pain and swelling, 'normal wear and tear' is not a satisfactory diagnosis for JO.  As such, he's sending out his MRI results to another doctor in NY, hoping he'll see something the others have missed. 

So, we're really in a gray area here, and unfortunately for JO this has happened before with him.  There are just some knee injuries can't be detected by an MRI or X-ray.  In some cases, it's only after exploratory surgery that the real cause of discomfort is discovered.  The back story with JO is that he apparently played 2 seasons on a torn meniscus that was misdiagnosed when he was with Indiana--and I'm sure that's what's in the back of his mind when he feels the pain in his knee and is told it's 'normal wear and tear'.  He's been told that before, believed it, and got burnt.  He doesn't want that to happen again, and so he's been extra cautious.

So, going forward, JO will probably continue to elicit opinions until some doctor somewhere recommends surgery.  That's my guess anyway.  Given JO's inability to play in pain, his history of mysterious knee injuries, I think it's safe to say he's searching for a surgical option, that is unless the swelling goes down and pain goes away in the meantime. 

[Fan from VT]

Ike Diogu and Brian Zoubek are other names to consider as well.

[moiso]

I also recall a shoulder injury in that JO had in Indiana.  The doctors cleared him to play in games, and then he took another month or two off.  There is a pattern here.

Do you think when Perk gets medical clearance, he will request additional weeks off?  No way.  He can't wait to play.

[crownsy]

I also recall a shoulder injury in that JO had in Indiana.  The doctors cleared him to play in games, and then he took another month or two off.  There is a pattern here.

Do you think when Perk gets medical clearance, he will request additional weeks off?  No way.  He can't wait to play.

Right, but that's not always the best course when your body tells you diffrent.

Remember when big al got cleared to play by the doc's, complained his ankles still hurt, the training staff implied he was soft so he played through it for a month, and then a second opinion turned up bone chips in his ankle that needed season ending surgery?

Rather have JO back when he feels he can go then have him overcompensating.