Jazz replace Boozer with Millsap, Okur with Big Al: Result is a 4-0 East Trip

[nba is the worst]

Jefferson has been a let down for that team, i've seen the majority of thier games and he looks out of place, out of element.

When and IF he starts "getting it" or "learning the system" that team is going to be dangerous but so far its been alot of luck.

Well, that's 2 votes for "luck" being the reason for a team going undefeated in a 4-games-in-5-nights road trip vs three of 5 consensus East contenders plus a Bobcats team that is winless at home...

I guess unless they beat the Celtics, there's no way they get credited for hustle, physical endurance, and skill...

[2short]

Al really needs to step up his intensity on defense and rebounding or Sloan will bench him again.  I've watched quite a few jazz games, the team looks good.  Al has not improved since we traded him.  Great low post game, little to no defense, rebounding actually seems worse to me.

[Fafnir]

Jefferson has been a let down for that team, i've seen the majority of thier games and he looks out of place, out of element.

When and IF he starts "getting it" or "learning the system" that team is going to be dangerous but so far its been alot of luck.

Well, that's 2 votes for "luck" being the reason for a team going undefeated in a 4-games-in-5-nights road trip vs three of 5 consensus East contenders plus a Bobcats team that is winless at home...

I guess unless they beat the Celtics, there's no way they get credited for hustle, physical endurance, and skill...

You don't think luck has a lot to do with coming back from several big deficits? Especially when you win by a single possession and in one case have your PF more than double his career total of three pointers in 30 seconds?

[nba is the worst]

Jefferson has been a let down for that team, i've seen the majority of thier games and he looks out of place, out of element.

When and IF he starts "getting it" or "learning the system" that team is going to be dangerous but so far its been alot of luck.

Well, that's 2 votes for "luck" being the reason for a team going undefeated in a 4-games-in-5-nights road trip vs three of 5 consensus East contenders plus a Bobcats team that is winless at home...

I guess unless they beat the Celtics, there's no way they get credited for hustle, physical endurance, and skill...

You don't think luck has a lot to do with coming back from rebated big deficits? Especially when you win by a single possession and in one case have your PF more than double his career total of three pointers in 30 seconds?

I'm not sure what you mean by "rebated" big deficits, but Millsap's threes were perfect, so that's stepping up, not luck.

As is having the determination to outwork your opponents after falling behind to not just come close, but defeat them...

[Fafnir]

Jefferson has been a let down for that team, i've seen the majority of thier games and he looks out of place, out of element.

When and IF he starts "getting it" or "learning the system" that team is going to be dangerous but so far its been alot of luck.

Well, that's 2 votes for "luck" being the reason for a team going undefeated in a 4-games-in-5-nights road trip vs three of 5 consensus East contenders plus a Bobcats team that is winless at home...

I guess unless they beat the Celtics, there's no way they get credited for hustle, physical endurance, and skill...

You don't think luck has a lot to do with coming back from rebated big deficits? Especially when you win by a single possession and in one case have your PF more than double his career total of three pointers in 30 seconds?

I'm not sure what you mean by "rebated" big deficits, but Millsap's threes were perfect, so that's stepping up, not luck.

As is having the determination to outwork your opponents after falling behind to not just come close, but defeat them...

I mistyped, its early!

I think when a career 2-20 3PT shooter hits 3 in 30 seconds that's pretty lucky.

I also think that when your "hard work" and "determination" keep letting you get down by big double digit deficits you have to be considered lucky to keep coming back.

[nba is the worst]

Jefferson has been a let down for that team, i've seen the majority of thier games and he looks out of place, out of element.

When and IF he starts "getting it" or "learning the system" that team is going to be dangerous but so far its been alot of luck.

Well, that's 2 votes for "luck" being the reason for a team going undefeated in a 4-games-in-5-nights road trip vs three of 5 consensus East contenders plus a Bobcats team that is winless at home...

I guess unless they beat the Celtics, there's no way they get credited for hustle, physical endurance, and skill...

You don't think luck has a lot to do with coming back from rebated big deficits? Especially when you win by a single possession and in one case have your PF more than double his career total of three pointers in 30 seconds?

I'm not sure what you mean by "rebated" big deficits, but Millsap's threes were perfect, so that's stepping up, not luck.

As is having the determination to outwork your opponents after falling behind to not just come close, but defeat them...

I also think that when your "hard work" and "determination" keep letting you get down by big double digit deficits you have to be considered lucky to keep coming back.

I guess, given the alternatives regarding inconsistent play over the course of a game, I prefer winning the 2nd half to winning the first - and I still don't agree with your definition of luck...

Once or twice, perhaps.  4 times, no.

And one man's "stepping up" by refusing to lose, shooting 3 textbook nothing-but-net jumpers, is another's "pretty lucky", I guess 

[Dybdal]

Jefferson has been a let down for that team, i've seen the majority of thier games and he looks out of place, out of element.

When and IF he starts "getting it" or "learning the system" that team is going to be dangerous but so far its been alot of luck.

Well, that's 2 votes for "luck" being the reason for a team going undefeated in a 4-games-in-5-nights road trip vs three of 5 consensus East contenders plus a Bobcats team that is winless at home...

I guess unless they beat the Celtics, there's no way they get credited for hustle, physical endurance, and skill...

You don't think luck has a lot to do with coming back from rebated big deficits? Especially when you win by a single possession and in one case have your PF more than double his career total of three pointers in 30 seconds?

I'm not sure what you mean by "rebated" big deficits, but Millsap's threes were perfect, so that's stepping up, not luck.

As is having the determination to outwork your opponents after falling behind to not just come close, but defeat them...

I also think that when your "hard work" and "determination" keep letting you get down by big double digit deficits you have to be considered lucky to keep coming back.

I guess, given the alternatives regarding inconsistent play over the course of a game, I prefer winning the 2nd half to winning the first - and I still don't agree with your definition of luck...

Once or twice, perhaps.  4 times, no.

And one man's "stepping up" by refusing to lose, shooting 3 textbook nothing-but-net jumpers, is another's "pretty lucky", I guess 

This is something i've touched opon before, calling Jordan "lucky" and it allways sparks the same reaction witch i find truely perplexing.

Sports is one of those area's where the term "luck" is allmost a tabo being replaced with other words but people will never regard the players or any player as being lucky as if attaching that word somehow takes away something from the preformance made but it dosnt, they have been playing well but they have had luck on their side thus far as statisticly they should not have won that many games being down every game.

Pure and simple, luck exsists everywhere and everyone is lucky to some degree.. that does not mean they are walking around blind folded throwing basketballs around, it just means they have had good fortune on their side.

[Dybdal]

Word'ing it abit different so my meaning dosnt get lost in translation.

If you can controll every portion of a basketball game from tip off to game end then you can say that luck is not a factor but no team in history can or ever will do that.

You cannot pre-determain the actions and reactions of the oposing team, coaching staff, fans or refs at a game, its not possible and that middle ground of a action vs a reaction is where luck or bad luck comes in.

Then what defines something being "lucky" then? well something that falls outside the realm of the statistic norm is 90% of the time defined as eighter a fluke or being attributed to some degree of luck.

And what the Jazz have done, has fallen outside the realm of the statistic norm, thus i attribute some degree of luck to it as i attribute some degree of luck to Michael Jordans carrer.