Ron Artest is Not Right

[slamtheking]

Look I hate the Lakers and this nutjob Artest just as much as all of you guys, but I have to say Doc started this war of words with his whole "haven't beaten the Celtics with our starting 5"...which I'm sorry, but sounds like a whiny little girl excuse. Doc is making the Celtics organization and us Boston fans look bad.

Did Phil Jackson make excuses about not having Bynum and a healthy Ariza back in 08 as the reason they lost? No. What Doc should be saying is the Lakers were the best team in 2010, thus motivating the C's to prove him wrong and take them down, but instead he makes excuses. Furthermore, the C's win and lose as a "TEAM", and last time I checked there are 12 guys on a TEAM not only 5. If the C's were a better team than LA, then someone would have stepped up for Perk in game 7, but they didn't and thats why we are sitting here as C's fans still bitter.

I for one am not making excuses, we were the better team in 2008, and they have been the better team in 2009 and 2010. Let's look forward to 2011 and hope we meet them again in the Finals.

Right on.  Let me climb aboard your "No Excuses" train!

I know what you're saying, but we still were the better team last season.  The free-throw desparity really killed us.  I agree with the no excuses, but it's not an excuse it's the truth.

I can't agree, because the Lakers had HCA, which worked well for the celtics in'08.

The Celtics commit lots of fouls compared with the Lakers. That logically results in the Lakers shooting more fts than the Celtics.

22 free-throws to 6 in the deciding quarter of the Finals... Enough said!  I can't talk about this anymore it hurts to much.

sorry but that's still a crappy excuse.  C's lost because they were outworked, couldn't secure rebound and couldn't hit shots when they needed to.  I hate the Lakers as much as the next C's fan and wanted to vomit at the end of the game but as much as I feel the Lakers normally receive a favorable bias in officiating, I didn't see it that way despite the free throw disparity.  Lakers simply went after it harder and it paid off for them.

Artest is right in calling out Doc on that whole "our starting 5 has never been beaten in a playoff series" garbage.  C's should have won in 5 or 6 if they brought their A game each game.  Never should have gone 7 games.  I'll even go further in saying that having Perk would have changed the game obviously but I'm not so certain they would have won since the Lakers won the battle of the boards in 3 games when Perk was playing. 

Doc needs to move on and call out the team for not taking care of business in game 7 rather than try to find some way to apply spin control on their failure to close out the game.

[nba is the worst]

Look I hate the Lakers and this nutjob Artest just as much as all of you guys, but I have to say Doc started this war of words with his whole "haven't beaten the Celtics with our starting 5"...which I'm sorry, but sounds like a whiny little girl excuse. Doc is making the Celtics organization and us Boston fans look bad.

Did Phil Jackson make excuses about not having Bynum and a healthy Ariza back in 08 as the reason they lost? No. What Doc should be saying is the Lakers were the best team in 2010, thus motivating the C's to prove him wrong and take them down, but instead he makes excuses. Furthermore, the C's win and lose as a "TEAM", and last time I checked there are 12 guys on a TEAM not only 5. If the C's were a better team than LA, then someone would have stepped up for Perk in game 7, but they didn't and thats why we are sitting here as C's fans still bitter.

I for one am not making excuses, we were the better team in 2008, and they have been the better team in 2009 and 2010. Let's look forward to 2011 and hope we meet them again in the Finals.

Right on.  Let me climb aboard your "No Excuses" train!

I know what you're saying, but we still were the better team last season.  The free-throw desparity really killed us.  I agree with the no excuses, but it's not an excuse it's the truth.

I can't agree, because the Lakers had HCA, which worked well for the celtics in'08.

The Celtics commit lots of fouls compared with the Lakers. That logically results in the Lakers shooting more fts than the Celtics.

22 free-throws to 6 in the deciding quarter of the Finals... Enough said!  I can't talk about this anymore it hurts to much.

I find it humorous how many times people post incorrect information when trying to make a point...

The correct numbers are 21-6 - and the number of wrong/missed calls was trivial - well within normal for the home team, and not close to the record 3.8X ft margin the Celtics were given in '08 game 2.

And the quote from Doc was wrong when he said the Celtics' starting 5 vs the Lakers' starting five in '08 won a ring - dismissing the fact that the Lakers' starting center was out.

Artest is right - this is a team game, and last season proved that a strategy that doesn't yield HCA is flawed.