Do the Magic Miss Turkeyglue?

[jackson_34]

I think Vince is playing well so far. He did have that hard fall too you know, that surely affected a bit of his shot in the FT line. Even Ray misses at the end of games.

What they're missing is Pietrus from last year.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. Everytime the C's play the magic. It seems like he has a say in the outcome. But this series he's been almost non-existent or at least a non-factor.

[wiley]

Yes, Pietrus was murder last year.....

as far as Turkoglu, I miss him.  I love watching that guy play.....I guess it didn't work out to well for him in Toronto.....can we trade for him?

[Potapenko Boxout]

Yes, Pietrus was murder last year.....

as far as Turkoglu, I miss him.  I love watching that guy play.....I guess it didn't work out to well for him in Toronto.....can we trade for him?

I have to say that yes, Pietrus is certainly underperforming. However I must say, JJ Reddick looks pretty good out there aside from a couple of poor crunchtime decisions. JJ has been able to penetrate and dish BETTER than the consistently-over rated Jameer Nelson IMO.

[Who]

Yes, Pietrus was murder last year.....

as far as Turkoglu, I miss him.  I love watching that guy play.....I guess it didn't work out to well for him in Toronto.....can we trade for him?

I have to say that yes, Pietrus is certainly underperforming. However I must say, JJ Reddick looks pretty good out there aside from a couple of poor crunchtime decisions. JJ has been able to penetrate and dish BETTER than the consistently-over rated Jameer Nelson IMO.

Yeah, I think this series has pinned down Nelson's place in the league pretty firmly. A good scoring point guard but not a star and a player who can be taken out of the game by strong pick and roll defense + shot-blockers in the paint.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think Vince is playing well so far. He did have that hard fall too you know, that surely affected a bit of his shot in the FT line. Even Ray misses at the end of games.

What they're missing is Pietrus from last year.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. Everytime the C's play the magic. It seems like he has a say in the outcome. But this series he's been almost non-existent or at least a non-factor.

Which is why I hate Doc putting Finley on him, and why I don't like Pierce on him. Afraid that he might go off on them. I'd rather put Tony on him and leave the knuckle heads face each other.

[Andy Jick]

The Magic need only what this guy can offer:



Things like a heart and brains and courage...

[Who]

I think Vince is playing well so far. He did have that hard fall too you know, that surely affected a bit of his shot in the FT line. Even Ray misses at the end of games.

What they're missing is Pietrus from last year.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. Everytime the C's play the magic. It seems like he has a say in the outcome. But this series he's been almost non-existent or at least a non-factor.

Which is why I hate Doc putting Finley on him, and why I don't like Pierce on him. Afraid that he might go off on them. I'd rather put Tony on him and leave the knuckle heads face each other.

I liked the job TA did on Redick defensively. Too quick and too talented defensively for Redick's limited offensive repertoire.

I think TA can take Redick right out of the game and Redick is more the dangerous player for the Celtics at the moment.

Redick has done a great job opening up that offense for Orlando.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think Vince is playing well so far. He did have that hard fall too you know, that surely affected a bit of his shot in the FT line. Even Ray misses at the end of games.

What they're missing is Pietrus from last year.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. Everytime the C's play the magic. It seems like he has a say in the outcome. But this series he's been almost non-existent or at least a non-factor.

Which is why I hate Doc putting Finley on him, and why I don't like Pierce on him. Afraid that he might go off on them. I'd rather put Tony on him and leave the knuckle heads face each other.

I liked the job TA did on Redick defensively. Too quick and too talented defensively for Redick's limited offensive repertoire.

I think TA can take Redick right out of the game and Redick is more the dangerous player for the Celtics at the moment.

Redick has done a great job opening up that offense for Orlando.

Yeah, I like TA on Redick too... so when Pierce is in there, there's little you can do about it.

But I also would consider putting Rondo on JJ, and putting Pierce on Williams (which I think was on the floor), and then moving TA to Pietrus.

[soap07]

Uh, what in the world? Hedo was terrible this year with Toronto. Terrible. Inexcusably terrible. He declined last year with Orlando as well. Anyone that watches the Magic will tell you that from February on that Carter fit in very well with Orlando and added a new dimension to that offense. 

[Who]

I think Vince is playing well so far. He did have that hard fall too you know, that surely affected a bit of his shot in the FT line. Even Ray misses at the end of games.

What they're missing is Pietrus from last year.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. Everytime the C's play the magic. It seems like he has a say in the outcome. But this series he's been almost non-existent or at least a non-factor.

Which is why I hate Doc putting Finley on him, and why I don't like Pierce on him. Afraid that he might go off on them. I'd rather put Tony on him and leave the knuckle heads face each other.

I liked the job TA did on Redick defensively. Too quick and too talented defensively for Redick's limited offensive repertoire.

I think TA can take Redick right out of the game and Redick is more the dangerous player for the Celtics at the moment.

Redick has done a great job opening up that offense for Orlando.

Yeah, I like TA on Redick too... so when Pierce is in there, there's little you can do about it.

But I also would consider putting Rondo on JJ, and putting Pierce on Williams (which I think was on the floor), and then moving TA to Pietrus.

Good idea, I like those matchups too. I think they would work very well.

Redick's ball-handling would struggle against Rondo's pressure defense. Pierce can easily handle Jason Williams and TA is a good matchup versus Pietrus. Neutralizes Orlando's perimeter trio.

I also like the idea of giving Marquis Daniels Finley's minutes and letting him play defense for a couple of minutes a night (against Pietrus).

[Bankshot]

Uh, what in the world? Hedo was terrible this year with Toronto. Terrible. Inexcusably terrible. He declined last year with Orlando as well. Anyone that watches the Magic will tell you that from February on that Carter fit in very well with Orlando and added a new dimension to that offense. 

Maybe Hedo doesn't struggle as much if he stayed in Orlando.  I think he's just a better fit there.  And you can't discount how Hedo performs in the playoffs, as opposed to Vince.

[Who]

Uh, what in the world? Hedo was terrible this year with Toronto. Terrible. Inexcusably terrible. He declined last year with Orlando as well. Anyone that watches the Magic will tell you that from February on that Carter fit in very well with Orlando and added a new dimension to that offense. 

Maybe Hedo doesn't struggle as much if he stayed in Orlando.  I think he's just a better fit there.  And you can't discount how Hedo performs in the playoffs, as opposed to Vince.

The Raptors used Turkoglu very badly. Took the ball out of his hands and limited the use of his playmaking. Then called isolation sets for him instead of putting him in the pick and roll when they needed big baskets in the fourth quarter.

They handled Turkoglu wrongly. Used him incorrectly.

Turkoglu is still the same player he was last season for the Magic.

[Lucky17]

I think the Orlando offense does miss Turkoglu.

Vince Carter has come in and taken all of Turkoglu's shots, and Rashard Lewis' as well, apparently.

I might be remembering this wrong, but Hedo seemed to score more within the offense, and could create for others off the dribble. Carter can occasionally dish, but his first and second looks are to score, and passing is an afterthought. I think Lewis' numbers are the result of Carter, Nelson, and Howard dominating the ball.

Balance on offense seems to be lacking in this series for Orlando.