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Three team blockbuster idea (DAL/LAL/TOR)
« on: April 30, 2010, 04:20:22 PM »

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TOR trades: Chris Bosh (sign-and-trade)
TOR receives: Andrew Bynum

Bosh is going to leave, and this way they get a young big man in the deal who has already shown aptitude on both ends.

DAL trades: Dirk Nowitzki
DAL receives: Chris Bosh

Dirk is an amazing player, but the current Mavs aren't getting it done.  This gives Cuban somebody to build around.  It helps that Bosh is from Texas.

LAL trades: Andrew Bynum
LAL receives: Dirk Nowitzki

Dirk is simply much more of a star than Bynum, and this maximizes Kobe's window to win another championship or two.  The Dirk / Gasol combo would be amazing offensively, as they could work inside and out.

I'd hate to see a trade like this go down, but I think that it potentially makes sense for all three teams.  I could see Dallas potentially balking, but only if Dirk is ready to recommit to Dallas.

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Re: Three team blockbuster idea (DAL/LAL/TOR)
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 04:32:58 PM »

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Makes almost too much sense not to happen, especially if LA doesn't win it all this year.

LA gets better.
Toronto gets something given at this point they are probably expecting nothing.
Dallas gets younger without giving up that much quality while simultaneously bringing home a local kid.

Which is why it will never happen.

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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 04:33:50 PM »

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Whether you are a contender or a rebuilder - you have to take Bosh over Dirk. They're in the same ball park, yet Bosh is much younger.

If LA has a choice between the two, I can't imagine they would choose Dirk.

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Re: Three team blockbuster idea (DAL/LAL/TOR)
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Boy, I sure hope that doesn't happen.  Although the Lakers' frontcourt would suddenly be even easier to push around.  Impossible to defend, though.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 04:39:21 PM »

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Whether you are a contender or a rebuilder - you have to take Bosh over Dirk. They're in the same ball park, yet Bosh is much younger.

If LA has a choice between the two, I can't imagine they would choose Dirk.

I disagree.  I think Dirk is a better fit next to Gasol -- he's got a lot more range -- and he's a better and more proven player.

Bosh is certainly in the same relative category, but over the next two or three seasons, Dirk would put the Lakers closer to a title.  Yes, Bosh has a lot more years left than Dirk does, but I'm a big believer that when you've got a chance at a title, you do everything in your power to maximize your chances.  Dirk would do that more than Bosh would.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 04:50:36 PM »

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Whether you are a contender or a rebuilder - you have to take Bosh over Dirk. They're in the same ball park, yet Bosh is much younger.

If LA has a choice between the two, I can't imagine they would choose Dirk.

I disagree.  I think Dirk is a better fit next to Gasol -- he's got a lot more range -- and he's a better and more proven player.

Bosh is certainly in the same relative category, but over the next two or three seasons, Dirk would put the Lakers closer to a title.  Yes, Bosh has a lot more years left than Dirk does, but I'm a big believer that when you've got a chance at a title, you do everything in your power to maximize your chances.  Dirk would do that more than Bosh would.
I have to agree with Roy here. In LA, Dirk is the better fit. Obviously the Gasol/Kobe combo has a lifeline on it as to the amount of years they have left of being considered true contenders for a title. That is probably three, maybe four years. In that time frame, Dirk I think is the better fit for what the Lakers do.

Bosh is the better asset to own but given Dirk's shooting ability and range I think he would fit the Laker style better.

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 05:08:03 PM »

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Its a great idea. It really is. But it'll never happen.

I cannot imagine Cuban dealing Dirk, and to L.A. in particular. I think there's an emotional attachment there that will preclude moving him on. I think, instead, he'll look to add an all-star piece beside Dirk using, in particular, Dampier's non-guaranteed contract and perhaps Beaubois.

The deal is perfect for Toronto. They get Bynum who can play inside leaving Bargnani to play the stretch-4 position he's best suited for. And because Bargs can defend the post pretty well, they're not too soft on the inside.

The real wild card here is Bosh. He's going to pick where he wants to play. He seems disinterested in playing in his hometown. If I was a betting man, I'd say he goes to L.A. straight up for Bynum. With Miami/New York being the next tier of likely destinations.

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 05:09:38 PM »

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Just a side note - people don't realize how good Bosh really is. That's going to change next season.

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 05:10:44 PM »

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Just a side note - people don't realize how good Bosh really is. That's going to change next season.

Bosh is a great player, no doubt.  For the Lakers, though, do you think he'd make more sense than Dirk?

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 05:16:27 PM »

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Just a side note - people don't realize how good Bosh really is. That's going to change next season.

Bosh is a great player, no doubt.  For the Lakers, though, do you think he'd make more sense than Dirk?

Honestly, I think pairing Dirk with Kobe and Pau is pretty much genius. It would help offset Kobe's decline and it gives them three lethal weapons on the floor. Not only that - they're all well-suited to play together.

If L.A. had a preference for Bosh, it would indicate they're thinking several years ahead. Because, as you noted, I think Dirk maximizes their opportunity in the short term.

That noted, Bosh is a pretty nice piece for them if that's what ends up happening.

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 05:19:22 PM »

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Just a side note - people don't realize how good Bosh really is. That's going to change next season.

Bosh is a great player, no doubt.  For the Lakers, though, do you think he'd make more sense than Dirk?

Honestly, I think pairing Dirk with Kobe and Pau is pretty much genius. It would help offset Kobe's decline and it gives them three lethal weapons on the floor. Not only that - they're all well-suited to play together.

If L.A. had a preference for Bosh, it would indicate they're thinking several years ahead. Because, as you noted, I think Dirk maximizes their opportunity in the short term.

That noted, Bosh is a pretty nice piece for them if that's what ends up happening.

Let me backtrack on this just a bit.

Kobe, Pau and Dirk makes me a bit queasy on the defensive side of things.

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 06:31:35 PM »

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Whether you are a contender or a rebuilder - you have to take Bosh over Dirk. They're in the same ball park, yet Bosh is much younger.

If LA has a choice between the two, I can't imagine they would choose Dirk.

I disagree.  I think Dirk is a better fit next to Gasol -- he's got a lot more range -- and he's a better and more proven player.

Bosh is certainly in the same relative category, but over the next two or three seasons, Dirk would put the Lakers closer to a title.  Yes, Bosh has a lot more years left than Dirk does, but I'm a big believer that when you've got a chance at a title, you do everything in your power to maximize your chances.  Dirk would do that more than Bosh would.
I have to agree with Roy here. In LA, Dirk is the better fit. Obviously the Gasol/Kobe combo has a lifeline on it as to the amount of years they have left of being considered true contenders for a title. That is probably three, maybe four years. In that time frame, Dirk I think is the better fit for what the Lakers do.

Bosh is the better asset to own but given Dirk's shooting ability and range I think he would fit the Laker style better.

My jaw is hanging open. The Lakers are good enough to get a title now. If it weren't for Lebron's intense hunger for a tile this year combined with the fact that LA is in the hangover year, the Lakers would be the current favorites.

They would have to be insane to pass on Bosh for 8 good/great years over Dirk for about 2. Dirk isn't that much better then Bosh, and the gap is about to close.