Big Baby in the NFL...

[rav123]

Still ragging on the only guy on your team that gives 100%.

What good is 1 player going 100% if its not in an effective way?

Baby gives 100%, but his 100% is not effective right now. He's 100% is still not good enough to avoid his shot getting blocked, his 100% is not good enough to defend guys like varejao and keep him off the boards. His 100% isn't effective, so I could care less if a certain player is going 100%, if he is not doing it in an effective and helpful way, then whats the point?

I realize that he's not always effective, but to rag on the guy when he's one of the only guys on the team that at least tries is wrong, imo.  Can you really blame a guy for trying very hard even if the results are not there?

I see your point, but anyone could counter it saying Scal tries hard as well. If the Celts signed me, I'd give a 100% effort all the time. Wouldn't stop me from sucking, and wouldn't stop the fans criticising me.

[jdpapa3]

In fact, the NFL players have it easy.  The play 16 games instead of 82.  They play either offense or defense, not both.  They get to rest between plays.

I dare anyone to mention a single pro football player who could make it in the NBA. I can't.

I really disagree with this. Going through a football game was much tougher than any basketball game I have ever played in. Used to be sore for Saturday and Sunday after a football game. Never really got sore after a basketball game.

And I bet BBD could be a great OT. Great footwork and size for the position. Maybe even TE. Would have to see his 40 time.

[Brickowski]

So name me one NFL player who could make it in the NBA.

I never got sore after football games.  I made other people sore.  Football is simple.  If you hit them harder than they hit you, they hurt and you don't.

Basketball required much more cardiovascular effort, much more stamina and much more intelligence.

[jdpapa3]

So name me one NFL player who could make it in the NBA.

I never got sore after football games.  I made other people sore.  Football is simple.  If you hit them harder than they hit you, they hurt and you don't.

Basketball required much more cardiovascular effort, much more stamina and much more intelligence.

I think a few wideouts could be swingmen. I think Randy Moss was getting a ton of looks when he played with Jason Williams in high school. You really have to stay in the game to be able to refine your skills and stay at an elite level, though. Moss wasn't just a run of the mill basketball player. He was the state player of the year twice.

And you must've had some magical pads. The hits that hurt me the most were when I was the one making the hit.

[Celtics17]

Wilt would have made a great NFL player, not just make the team. He had everything needed and would have been crazy as a wide receiver or tight end. He was incredibly fast and strong too. He is one player that I have little doubt could have been very successful in the NFL. Overall I would say it takes much more athletic ability to play pro basketball then it does to play pro football although there are certainly exceptions.

[Greenbean]

So name me one NFL player who could make it in the NBA.

I never got sore after football games.  I made other people sore.  Football is simple.  If you hit them harder than they hit you, they hurt and you don't.

Basketball required much more cardiovascular effort, much more stamina and much more intelligence.

It's kind of funny. I think the NBA has developed into a game that resembles football.

The game used to be predicated on a lot of running and cardiovascular effort. Now it seems that it is more about walking the ball up (players coming out of the huddle), beginning an offensive set (the snap), a scorer gets the ball and makes a quick explosive move  and tries to score(a handoff or a completed pass).

Of course this is really over simplified to fit my point but I think you get the jist. I would LOVE for the game to return to the more free flowing running game that I (and most fans) love to watch.

[Brickowski]

Yes, Moss might have made the NBA. But Moss is what, 6-4?  Did he have point guard skills or was he a lights out shooter?  If not, he would have been a very dark horse.

Meanwhile, I can think of at least a dozen current NBA players who could play in the NFL right now.  I'd start with LeBron James (can you imagine him as a pass rusher coming off the edge?), but there are plenty of others, including BBD.

[TBreezy]

Do you really think lebron has the wit to outsmart the NFL drug policy?  The minimal NFL PED policy is infinielty harder to circumvent than teh one in the NBA. 

Not to mention in the NFL Ms. James would be hit back - she might not likey so much

[Greenbean]

Do you really think lebron has the wit to outsmart the NFL drug policy?  The minimal NFL PED policy is infinielty harder to circumvent than teh one in the NBA. 

Not to mention in the NFL Ms. James would be hit back - she might not likey so much

If you think there is more PED use in the NBA than there is in the NFL then you are blind.

[Greenbean]

Sorry to be so brash but I am just so sick of hearing about PEDs in sports. Im not going to chastize any one player and then completely ignore the possibility that players on my own team use.

ESPECIALLY if there has never been any proof!

[BballTim]

Yes, Moss might have made the NBA. But Moss is what, 6-4?  Did he have point guard skills or was he a lights out shooter?  If not, he would have been a very dark horse.

Meanwhile, I can think of at least a dozen current NBA players who could play in the NFL right now.  I'd start with LeBron James (can you imagine him as a pass rusher coming off the edge?), but there are plenty of others, including BBD.

  I'm pretty sure that Tony Gonzalez was a pretty good basketball prospect.

[acieEarl]

As far as mental toughness that's tough to call from anyone in the NBA. That being said I think BBD could play in the NFL right now. He's played football before( I know it's only high school) but he's got the body and strength to play a few different spots in the NFL. If he had the right trainer for playing in the NFL I don't think it would take long.

If you don't think Lebron could play in the NFL right now you're crazy. The only thing that wouldn't allow him to play is his mental toughness and I think he's got plenty of that. His size and athletic ability would make him a hell of a tight end.

[PLamb]

Charlie Ward, a Heisman Trophy winner could have played either pro football o basketball

He chose basketball

Terell Owens definitely had NBA type skills and size

[Greenbean]

This is a nice debate.

My 2 cents: Alot of guys have the skills and athleticism necessary to play both sports. However there is one thing that precludes guys from basketball and that is height. If you are tall, you are going to play basketball. Once you make that decision, you start training your body for your sport. Each sport demands very different training. The skill positions in football require alot of the same training that a basketball player would go through.

That is why you see alot of basketball players who were too short for their positions play football.

To say one sport demands more than the other is overlooking alot in my opinion. First of all, good athletes are good athletes and could probably train their bodies to play alot of sports. What makes basketball unque though is height, not encessarily superior athleticism.

Sorry that was kind of stream of consciouness stuff but I hope I come accross clear.