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My Ultimatum to the Celtics!!!
« on: February 07, 2010, 11:47:28 PM »

Offline QuinielaBox

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The Celtics continue to play flat, sloppy, and uninspired basketball. This has been going on since their loss to the Clippers after Christmas. They are a horrid 13-18 since Christmas losing games at home and away and struggling to beat the lowly nets.

It isn't any one player or coach to blame. It is everyone who seems to play lackadasically for long stretches at a time. The lack of effort and attention to detail is killing the Celtics and their season.

This team needs a whole lot of cajoling and hard work in practice and much better attention to detail to turn this around. But bad habits are bad habits and do not turn around over night. Doc needs to set up a rotation and bench non-performers. There is at least one player that must be benched.

Danny is looking for added help but I don't think that is going to shake this team out of it's lethargy. If things do not DRASTICALLY TURN AROUND WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.

This pig must be blown up and Doc must be fired
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Edited: No caps in tittle please
« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 09:38:18 AM by Edgar »
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Re: MY ULTIMATUM TO THE CELTICS!!!!
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 09:36:34 AM »

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http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2010/02/08/celtics_effort_not_hard_to_categorize_theyre_no_longer_elite/?page=2

Thank You, Gary Washburn for writing that and calling out their mediocrity (pretty good team must be taken as a euphimism).

The Celtics don't have to win a title or even a playoff series to win back my love. They need to go out and give a professional effort from now on to earn a "Gentlemens C+ like the Patriots did this year.

Doc Rivers needs to start coaching and running them harder in practice. And he needs to bench those players that are not performing, even if it means running certain players into the ground.

We are a laughingstock in this league.

Making a trade like the ones I have been reading about here and elsewhere won't do any good if the culture does not change.

I sure hope they find their games on this road trip coming up in February. Otherwise a whole "Q" full of people will be calling into Celticsstufflive to chew out the Celtics.
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My Solution for a lost basketball season
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 01:11:38 PM »

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Aside from benching Sheed and using Sheldon Williams or Brian Scalabrine, I don’t have that many suggestions (except to endure watching this team continue to struggle) of what should be done. I don’t like the idea of trading Ray Allen at this point because the championship window closes when the Celtics get eliminated in Round One (Round Two if they make an effort and are very lucky) in this years playoffs.

Doc is a good coach but his strategy of “taking it easy” is a failed approach. Taking it easy points to collapsing to the point of falling to 9th place in the East and a most embarrassing season in the History of the NBA (at which point Ainge will clean house and we have to suffer through multiple lottery seasons).

Perhaps Doc will ride his players until their ACL/MCL’s rupture and then we can say – Oh well it was not meant to be.

Did I mention that I consider this season completely lost?
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Re: My Ultimatum to the Celtics!!!
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 02:22:07 PM »

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However, in the 1968–69 season, Russell seemed to reach a breaking point. Shocked by the murder of Robert F. Kennedy, disillusioned by the Vietnam War, and weary from his increasingly stale (and later divorced) marriage to his wife Rose, he was convinced that the U.S. was a corrupt nation and that he was wasting his time playing something as superficial as basketball.[46] He was 15 pounds overweight, skipped mandatory NBA coach meetings and was generally lacking energy: after a New York Knicks game, he complained of intense pain and was diagnosed with acute exhaustion.[46] Russell pulled himself together and put up 9.9 points and 19.3 rebounds per game,[21] but the aging Celtics stumbled through the regular season. Their 48–34 record was the team's worst since 1955–56, and they entered the playoffs as only the fourth-seeded team in the East.[47] In the playoffs, however, Russell and his Celtics achieved upsets over the Philadelphia 76ers and New York Knicks to earn a meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA Finals. L.A. now featured new recruit Wilt Chamberlain next to perennial stars Baylor and West, and were heavily favored. In the first two games, Russell ordered not to double-team West, who used the freedom to score 53 and 41 points in the Game 1 and 2 Laker wins.[48] Russell then ordered to double-team West, and Boston won Game 3. In Game 4, the Celtics were trailing by one point with seven seconds left and the Lakers having the ball, but then Baylor stepped out of bounds, and in the last play, Sam Jones used a triple screen by Bailey Howell, Larry Siegfried and Havlicek and hit a buzzer beater which equalized the series.[48] The teams split the next two games, so it all came down to Game 7 in L.A., where Lakers owner Jack Kent Cooke angered and motivated the Celtics by putting "proceedings of Lakers victory ceremony" on the game leaflets. Russell used a copy as extra motivation and told his team to play a running game, because in that case, not the better, but the more determined team was going to win.[48]

The Celtics were ahead by nine points with five minutes remaining; in addition, West was heavily limping after a Game 5 thigh injury and Chamberlain had left the game with an injured leg.[48] West then hit one basket after the other and cut the lead to one, and Chamberlain asked to return to the game. However, Lakers coach Bill van Breda Kolff kept Chamberlain on the bench until the end of the game, saying later that he wanted to stay with the lineup responsible for the comeback.[30][49] The Celtics held on for a 108–106 victory, and Russell claimed his eleventh championship in 13 years. At age 35, Russell contributed 21 rebounds in his last NBA game.[17] After the game, Russell went over to the distraught West (who had scored 42 points and was named the only NBA Finals MVP in history from the losing team), clasped his hand and tried to soothe him.


As a Celtic fan you should know that the Celtics have been there before,  old, tired, dinged up, bored, complacent--this team needs to peak at the right time, --the leads we easily gain show the talent is sufficient, it is thinking that we can turn it on and off, at will, that is killing us-- the playoffs are still months away---KG and PP are realizing they aren't invincible and have to find a way with their head & soul not their body--but mainly Doc has to figure out what turns this team on--just like Red and Russ did--Doc just let yesterday's 3rd quarter happen --he needed to impose his will somehow--we need to find a Havlicek or some kind of large "will" coming off the bench!  Keep hope alive!
Days up and down they come, like rain on a conga drum, forget most, remember some, don't turn none away.   Townes Van Zandt

Re: My Ultimatum to the Celtics!!!
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 02:43:45 PM »

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Who is going to lead the Celtics out of their funk, feckless?

Good reference back to 1969. I was thinking the same thing.

Can we break from the three hole and a 46-36 record to win the championship?

What odds can I get from Las Vegas of this happening?

Where do I sign up for this tomfoolery?
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Re: My Ultimatum to the Celtics!!!
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 02:53:51 PM »

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Who is going to lead the Celtics out of their funk, feckless?

Good reference back to 1969. I was thinking the same thing.

Can we break from the three hole and a 46-36 record to win the championship?

What odds can I get from Las Vegas of this happening?

Where do I sign up for this tomfoolery?

Not sure how--maybe your idea to bench someone--start Tony bring Ray off the bench??---This situation is where the sixth man of Red's design was called for--Sheed, nor anyone else on the bench, does not have the respect or personality for a true 6th man--maybe that's what we should be trading for--but I do believe this team can get there with the right tweaks.
Days up and down they come, like rain on a conga drum, forget most, remember some, don't turn none away.   Townes Van Zandt

Re: My Ultimatum to the Celtics!!!
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 02:56:32 PM »

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Maybe this is the last refuge of hope for this team. It happened in 1969, so it can happen again, 41 years later --  ???

Re: My Ultimatum to the Celtics!!!
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 03:12:48 PM »

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Maybe this is the last refuge of hope for this team. It happened in 1969, so it can happen again, 41 years later --  ???


 seems like yesterday to me! :o

Seriously we knew it was coming but how they go out will define their greatness or lack there of--Bill Russell sure set a great example for how to do it!
Days up and down they come, like rain on a conga drum, forget most, remember some, don't turn none away.   Townes Van Zandt

Re: My Ultimatum to the Celtics!!!
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 08:51:48 PM »

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Maybe this is the last refuge of hope for this team. It happened in 1969, so it can happen again, 41 years later --  ???


 seems like yesterday to me! :o

Seriously we knew it was coming but how they go out will define their greatness or lack there of--Bill Russell sure set a great example for how to do it!

I got it, I GOT IT!!!!!

Lets fire Doc Rivers and hire Bill Russell as HC and Tommy Heinsohn as assistant coach. Bill Russell can back up Kendrick Perkins at Center!!!!11

YEEEEEEHAAAAAWWWWWW!!!!
Wins are few, times are hard. Here is your bleeping St Patricks Day Card.