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Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2009, 12:19:48 PM »

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I think some people are vastly underrating how talented Braylon is.  He is a legit #1 Wr, who will open the field for the Jets in a way that none of their WR's could have.  I am not sure how strong/accurate of an arm Sanchez has on deep balls, but Edwards is the type of guy that requires safety help...

plus he is big (6'3) and that always helps at the goalline. it wasnt long ago he had 1200+ yards and 16(!) TDs.


The Jets made a good deal here, as they didnt really give up much.  I just hope Braylon continues to forget how to actually catch the ball.

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2009, 12:49:56 PM »

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I don't feel like people are underrating him at all.

He's a good WR, but he's had exactly ONE great year, 2007.

you qoute that one year, ya'll but what about the other 3?

2005 he was awful, but lets excuse him for being a rookie.

He was sub par in 2006, barley clearing 800 yards.

Break out 2007.

Bad 2008.

So far a horrible 2009.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaBr00.htm

Given his overall track recored, what is the fascination with pretending he;s a top 10 or even top 25 WR in this league? he isn't.

Consistency is part of being a good WR too, and Braylon hasn't shown it. he also has sub par hands. Part of his problem has been being on the browns, but alot of it has also been self inflicted.

If he suddenly becomes the consistent world beater he was in 2007, then fine, it's a huge upgrade for the jets.

But considering he's 1/4 for good years in the league so far (and is stinking up the joint right now) I don't think it's underrating him to question if he really is the top shelf WR he's sold as.

Being tall and athletic does not automatically make you the next TO or randy moss. You have to go out and prove it.

Braylon has consistently failed to do that.
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Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2009, 01:03:37 PM »

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I don't feel like people are underrating him at all.

He's a good WR, but he's had exactly ONE great year, 2007.

you qoute that one year, ya'll but what about the other 3?

2005 he was awful, but lets excuse him for being a rookie.

He was sub par in 2006, barley clearing 800 yards.

Break out 2007.

Bad 2008.

So far a horrible 2009.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaBr00.htm

Given his overall track recored, what is the fascination with pretending he;s a top 10 or even top 25 WR in this league? he isn't.

Consistency is part of being a good WR too, and Braylon hasn't shown it. he also has sub par hands. Part of his problem has been being on the browns, but alot of it has also been self inflicted.

If he suddenly becomes the consistent world beater he was in 2007, then fine, it's a huge upgrade for the jets.

But considering he's 1/4 for good years in the league so far (and is stinking up the joint right now) I don't think it's underrating him to question if he really is the top shelf WR he's sold as.

Being tall and athletic does not automatically make you the next TO or randy moss. You have to go out and prove it.

Braylon has consistently failed to do that.

I didnt say he was Moss.  But I think you must consider his atrocious QB play over his years.  look at Moss on the Raiders...

We'll see, I am not ready to annoint Sanchez as the best QB Edwards has played with, but I bet Edwards numbers shoot up...

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2009, 01:05:11 PM »

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I don't feel like people are underrating him at all.

He's a good WR, but he's had exactly ONE great year, 2007.

you qoute that one year, ya'll but what about the other 3?

2005 he was awful, but lets excuse him for being a rookie.

He was sub par in 2006, barley clearing 800 yards.

Break out 2007.

Bad 2008.

So far a horrible 2009.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaBr00.htm

Given his overall track recored, what is the fascination with pretending he;s a top 10 or even top 25 WR in this league? he isn't.

Consistency is part of being a good WR too, and Braylon hasn't shown it. he also has sub par hands. Part of his problem has been being on the browns, but alot of it has also been self inflicted.

If he suddenly becomes the consistent world beater he was in 2007, then fine, it's a huge upgrade for the jets.

But considering he's 1/4 for good years in the league so far (and is stinking up the joint right now) I don't think it's underrating him to question if he really is the top shelf WR he's sold as.

Being tall and athletic does not automatically make you the next TO or randy moss. You have to go out and prove it.

Braylon has consistently failed to do that.

I didnt say he was Moss.  But I think you must consider his atrocious QB play over his years.  look at Moss on the Raiders...

We'll see, I am not ready to annoint Sanchez as the best QB Edwards has played with, but I bet Edwards numbers shoot up...

I think best case he puts up numbers like TO in Buffalo this year
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Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2009, 01:11:11 PM »

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Now I'm conflicted. He's on my fantasy team and has been putrid so far. So on the one hand, his doing better would help that. On the other, I hate the Jets.

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2009, 01:11:35 PM »

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I don't feel like people are underrating him at all.

He's a good WR, but he's had exactly ONE great year, 2007.

you qoute that one year, ya'll but what about the other 3?

2005 he was awful, but lets excuse him for being a rookie.

He was sub par in 2006, barley clearing 800 yards.

Break out 2007.

Bad 2008.

So far a horrible 2009.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaBr00.htm

Given his overall track recored, what is the fascination with pretending he;s a top 10 or even top 25 WR in this league? he isn't.

Consistency is part of being a good WR too, and Braylon hasn't shown it. he also has sub par hands. Part of his problem has been being on the browns, but alot of it has also been self inflicted.

If he suddenly becomes the consistent world beater he was in 2007, then fine, it's a huge upgrade for the jets.

But considering he's 1/4 for good years in the league so far (and is stinking up the joint right now) I don't think it's underrating him to question if he really is the top shelf WR he's sold as.

Being tall and athletic does not automatically make you the next TO or randy moss. You have to go out and prove it.

Braylon has consistently failed to do that.

I didnt say he was Moss.  But I think you must consider his atrocious QB play over his years.  look at Moss on the Raiders...

We'll see, I am not ready to annoint Sanchez as the best QB Edwards has played with, but I bet Edwards numbers shoot up...

I'll grant you that, but how many of those drops they love to show over and over again do you think were the QB's fault?

Alot of those were easy catch's a third string WR should make.

edwards was always criticized for his hands at Michigan too. He is not good at the "receiving" part of his job title.

Open field runs, breaking tackles, heck even blocking, he's good at.

The catching a football aspect, not so much. If i were a coach, I'd make him a Tight end, but he's probably not bulky enough to do that. He would be a nightmare for LB's to cover though.
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Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2009, 02:08:23 PM »

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I'll grant you that, but how many of those drops they love to show over and over again do you think were the QB's fault?

Alot of those were easy catch's a third string WR should make.

edwards was always criticized for his hands at Michigan too. He is not good at the "receiving" part of his job title.

Open field runs, breaking tackles, heck even blocking, he's good at.

The catching a football aspect, not so much. If i were a coach, I'd make him a Tight end, but he's probably not bulky enough to do that. He would be a nightmare for LB's to cover though.

no doubt the drops are a joke.  He drops more then most good WR's. But I have seen Moss, TO, everyone drop balls.  it happens (Braylon more then most, I agree). 

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2009, 02:10:11 PM »

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I don't feel like people are underrating him at all.

He's a good WR, but he's had exactly ONE great year, 2007.

you qoute that one year, ya'll but what about the other 3?

2005 he was awful, but lets excuse him for being a rookie.

He was sub par in 2006, barley clearing 800 yards.

Break out 2007.

Bad 2008.

So far a horrible 2009.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaBr00.htm

Given his overall track recored, what is the fascination with pretending he;s a top 10 or even top 25 WR in this league? he isn't.

Consistency is part of being a good WR too, and Braylon hasn't shown it. he also has sub par hands. Part of his problem has been being on the browns, but alot of it has also been self inflicted.

If he suddenly becomes the consistent world beater he was in 2007, then fine, it's a huge upgrade for the jets.

But considering he's 1/4 for good years in the league so far (and is stinking up the joint right now) I don't think it's underrating him to question if he really is the top shelf WR he's sold as.

Being tall and athletic does not automatically make you the next TO or randy moss. You have to go out and prove it.

Braylon has consistently failed to do that.

I didnt say he was Moss.  But I think you must consider his atrocious QB play over his years.  look at Moss on the Raiders...

We'll see, I am not ready to annoint Sanchez as the best QB Edwards has played with, but I bet Edwards numbers shoot up...

I think best case he puts up numbers like TO in Buffalo this year

Really?  as in avg 2 catches for 40 yards a game?!?  TO has been Putrid (8 catches, 158 yards for the season).

I'll bet you Braylon tops the 2 for 40 in some form or another every week

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2009, 04:48:39 AM »

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I don't feel like people are underrating him at all.

He's a good WR, but he's had exactly ONE great year, 2007.

you qoute that one year, ya'll but what about the other 3?

2005 he was awful, but lets excuse him for being a rookie.

He was sub par in 2006, barley clearing 800 yards.

Break out 2007.

Bad 2008.

So far a horrible 2009.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaBr00.htm

Given his overall track recored, what is the fascination with pretending he;s a top 10 or even top 25 WR in this league? he isn't.

Consistency is part of being a good WR too, and Braylon hasn't shown it. he also has sub par hands. Part of his problem has been being on the browns, but alot of it has also been self inflicted.

If he suddenly becomes the consistent world beater he was in 2007, then fine, it's a huge upgrade for the jets.

But considering he's 1/4 for good years in the league so far (and is stinking up the joint right now) I don't think it's underrating him to question if he really is the top shelf WR he's sold as.

Being tall and athletic does not automatically make you the next TO or randy moss. You have to go out and prove it.

Braylon has consistently failed to do that.

I didnt say he was Moss.  But I think you must consider his atrocious QB play over his years.  look at Moss on the Raiders...

We'll see, I am not ready to annoint Sanchez as the best QB Edwards has played with, but I bet Edwards numbers shoot up...

I think best case he puts up numbers like TO in Buffalo this year

False.

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2009, 05:10:20 AM »

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Best case scenario is not Edwards puts up numbers like TO in Buffalo this year.
TO has 8 catches for 158 yards & 1 TD in 4 games this year
That comes out to 32 Rec/632 yards & 4 TD in 16 games
Edwards best season was in 2007 when he had 80 Rec/1289 Yards & 16 TD in 16 games.
80/1289/16 is alot more than 32/632/4 so that isn't the best case scenario.

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
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To many "ifs" to be putting with a rookie QB.


"If" he starts playing well again.

"If" he stops acting like a moron off the field.

"If" he stops being a knucklehead in the locker room.

"If" Rex Ryan doesn't end up killing him.


And of course he is in a contract season, and he is still stinking up the joint.

Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2009, 07:47:53 AM »

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To many "ifs" to be putting with a rookie QB.


"If" he starts playing well again.

"If" he stops acting like a moron off the field.

"If" he stops being a knucklehead in the locker room.

"If" Rex Ryan doesn't end up killing him.


And of course he is in a contract season, and he is still stinking up the joint.

Exactly, Is sanchez that much better than quinn?  Ill admit I think the Jets have a much better offensive line which will give Sanchez more time to throw, but as I said when TO first went to Buffalo is that our best defense against him was that Trent Edwards was throwing him the ball.  Im predicting 2 catches  40 yards.  But ill probably be wrong. 
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Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
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Re: The AFC East just got tougher: Braylon Edwards to the Jets
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2009, 08:02:37 AM »

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Turns out he didn't punch LeBron's friend after all, it was a case of mistaken identity.

I'm not sure how much it will help the Jets, but they really didn't give up that much (3, 6, and two role players).