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Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2009, 03:32:09 PM »

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Is this a ten year old thread that got bumped today?

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2009, 03:42:12 PM »

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I have my doubts that he can even walk. He was virtually the most unathletic player I ever saw. He makes Big Baby look like a gazelle

big baby was a running back in college, and i've always found him to be a surprisingly graceful runner for his size haha

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2009, 04:36:03 PM »

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There's plenty of frontline depth.  PG, maybe.  But don't waste the last roster spot on what would be a Pollard-bad practice player.

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2009, 04:41:38 PM »

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Well - didn't mean to make it racial. I am white and he is white so I was just calling him out as he used to be embarassing to me as a white guy.

I think a few years ago some guy named Larry Bird said he was always offended when a coach sent a white guy out to guard him.

In the peak of my playing days (after HS) in pick up street ball on the mean streets of some rough areas of Kansas City I was the only white guy playing. I kidded around with the guys I played with that they couldn't stop the white guy. We gave each other grief about the white guy-black guy thing.

Once I traveled to a pretty rough part of Kansas City to play a game with some of my "street-ballers" and once again I was the only white guy (probably for a several mile radius). These new black ballers refused to me play because I was white. I thought it was funny (I didn't argue however).

I just never really got caught up when playing basketball about PO-litical correctness in racial terms. I can dish it out and I can take it. I never mean any harm by it and I have never had my butt kicked over it either.

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More power to you M. Po- can't say that I would feel comfortable doing the same, but I do agree that it is fun to play with a variety of players, not just the 'whities' I grew up with in NH. I have definitely met some very cool people playing basketball that I may very well have never known otherwise.

As for the Ostertag thing, I really thought this was a joke thread. I mean, Shelden Williams has soooooooo much more to offer at this point than Ostertag...and he's a heck of a lot more aggressive.

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2009, 06:06:31 PM »

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Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 10:07:46 PM »

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I think the very fact Greg Ostertag started at center for a team that went to the NBA Finals simply proves that if the Bulls had played ten years earlier or ten years later, they probably would've won fewer championships.  I mean that Jazz team took the Bulls to 6 games each time?  That's great and all, but Greg Ostertag in his prime probably wouldn't sniff the court here.  Ray Allen is much better than Hornacek and PP is dramatically better than Russell.  KG is probably marginally better than the Mailman given what he can do on the defensive end.  So the Jazz have Stockton, who is significantly better than Rondo, but not by as much as PP is better than Russell, Ray is better than Hornacek, or Perk is better than Ostertag. 
 

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2009, 10:38:33 PM »

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I'm trying to think of something more painful to watch than Raef LaFrentz running the floor...oh, Greg Ostertag running the floor.
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Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2009, 10:52:55 PM »

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I think the very fact Greg Ostertag started at center for a team that went to the NBA Finals simply proves that if the Bulls had played ten years earlier or ten years later, they probably would've won fewer championships.  I mean that Jazz team took the Bulls to 6 games each time?  That's great and all, but Greg Ostertag in his prime probably wouldn't sniff the court here.  Ray Allen is much better than Hornacek and PP is dramatically better than Russell.  KG is probably marginally better than the Mailman given what he can do on the defensive end.  So the Jazz have Stockton, who is significantly better than Rondo, but not by as much as PP is better than Russell, Ray is better than Hornacek, or Perk is better than Ostertag. 
The Bulls won during Hakeem's prime. I wouldn't read so much into Ostertag.

When comparing teams, you also have to look only at the way the players played in the years you are comparing. That factors into the Malone/KG comparison, considering KG was past his prime when he arrived here.

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2009, 11:04:20 PM »

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I think the very fact Greg Ostertag started at center for a team that went to the NBA Finals simply proves that if the Bulls had played ten years earlier or ten years later, they probably would've won fewer championships.  I mean that Jazz team took the Bulls to 6 games each time?  That's great and all, but Greg Ostertag in his prime probably wouldn't sniff the court here.  Ray Allen is much better than Hornacek and PP is dramatically better than Russell.  KG is probably marginally better than the Mailman given what he can do on the defensive end.  So the Jazz have Stockton, who is significantly better than Rondo, but not by as much as PP is better than Russell, Ray is better than Hornacek, or Perk is better than Ostertag. 
The Bulls won during Hakeem's prime. I wouldn't read so much into Ostertag.

When comparing teams, you also have to look only at the way the players played in the years you are comparing. That factors into the Malone/KG comparison, considering KG was past his prime when he arrived here.

I disagree on a number of levels.

1) Jordan never faced Hakeem in the playoffs.  Moreover, that's not the point.  The Hakeem teams were pretty horrid too.  He was not only the only Hall of Famer on the first one, but really only even the only true good player on the team.  When Drexler came, things got better, but they were hardly Shaq and Kobe or Magic and Kareem. 

2) Malone and Stockton were both older than KG is now when they met Jordan in the Finals.  And even if you are going to argue that they were still at the tops of their games at 34-36, what evidence is there to show that KG isn't at his peak still, or at least wasn't at his peak when they won 2008?  Sure he go injured, by so did Jerrod Mayo last night, and he's in his early 20s.  Sure his stats dipped when he got here, but that's what happens when you play with two other superstars (which is my point about why the NBA is better now than it was ten years ago), not even to mention Rondo. 

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2009, 11:40:04 PM »

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Greg Ostertag? Really? Why stop there? Didn't Jordan say he could see himself playing at age 50? There's your insurance for Pierce right there...

Re: Greg Ostertag?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2009, 09:51:05 AM »

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actually... MJ off the bench would be pretty sweet...