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Re: I have one question for those who doubt the 20009-2010 Celtics
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2009, 11:38:11 PM »

Offline moiso

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Unless Bynum goes for 40 in Game 6, yes we would have won.

We don't even have to stay completely healthy to win the title this year.  All we have to do is stay AS healthy as the other top teams in the league.  Last year we got the worst luck in injuries.  If we trade even as far as injuries go with the other top teams in the league, we will have the advantage.   
Why? There were other close games were he could have contributed.

This is why what-ifs are so silly. We are talking about an alternate situation, and you are assuming the same outcomes in every game except game 6.

And Bynum would help as much on defense as on offense.
yep.  Celts fans underestimate a healthy Bynum.  Who knows, last year a healthy Bynum may have been as good as a healthy KG.

Re: I have one question for those who doubt the 20009-2010 Celtics
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2009, 01:32:49 AM »

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Unless Bynum goes for 40 in Game 6, yes we would have won.

We don't even have to stay completely healthy to win the title this year.  All we have to do is stay AS healthy as the other top teams in the league.  Last year we got the worst luck in injuries.  If we trade even as far as injuries go with the other top teams in the league, we will have the advantage.   
Why? There were other close games were he could have contributed.

This is why what-ifs are so silly. We are talking about an alternate situation, and you are assuming the same outcomes in every game except game 6.

And Bynum would help as much on defense as on offense.
yep.  Celts fans underestimate a healthy Bynum.  Who knows, last year a healthy Bynum may have been as good as a healthy KG.

yeah so any healthy player in the league may have been as good as a healthy KG. Seriously though what is the fascination with bynum? Would people even know who he was if he wasn't on the lakers?

Re: I have one question for those who doubt the 20009-2010 Celtics
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2009, 02:21:18 AM »

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Unless Bynum goes for 40 in Game 6, yes we would have won.

We don't even have to stay completely healthy to win the title this year.  All we have to do is stay AS healthy as the other top teams in the league.  Last year we got the worst luck in injuries.  If we trade even as far as injuries go with the other top teams in the league, we will have the advantage.   
Why? There were other close games were he could have contributed.

This is why what-ifs are so silly. We are talking about an alternate situation, and you are assuming the same outcomes in every game except game 6.

And Bynum would help as much on defense as on offense.
yep.  Celts fans underestimate a healthy Bynum.  Who knows, last year a healthy Bynum may have been as good as a healthy KG.
That might be going a bit too far. Bynum doesn't know the game at near the level KG does at this point.

Nevertheless, Bynum would have been more in sync with his team by playing throughout the season.

My overall point is that the people who don't pick the C's to win it all are being reasonable. If we could guarantee that all teams remain healthy throughout the season, the C's would get more love. But we still need to see how the tissue in KG's leg healed (though many want to ignore this fact).

I see no reason to harp on the knee, just as I see no reason to play the victim when commentators don't pick us.

Re: I have one question for those who doubt the 20009-2010 Celtics
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2009, 07:59:15 AM »

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Unless Bynum goes for 40 in Game 6, yes we would have won.

We don't even have to stay completely healthy to win the title this year.  All we have to do is stay AS healthy as the other top teams in the league.  Last year we got the worst luck in injuries.  If we trade even as far as injuries go with the other top teams in the league, we will have the advantage.   
Why? There were other close games were he could have contributed.

This is why what-ifs are so silly. We are talking about an alternate situation, and you are assuming the same outcomes in every game except game 6.

And Bynum would help as much on defense as on offense.
yep.  Celts fans underestimate a healthy Bynum.  Who knows, last year a healthy Bynum may have been as good as a healthy KG.

He may put up numbers close to KG on the offensive end (15pts vs 14pts both with double digit rpg); but there is no way Bynum is the defensive force that KG is, single handily or as a team defender and leader.

Re: I have one question for those who doubt the 20009-2010 Celtics
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2009, 08:13:48 AM »

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And their games are completely different as well.  And if perk can hold Dwight Howard in check, I am very confident in his ability to stop Bynum. 
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Re: I have one question for those who doubt the 20009-2010 Celtics
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2009, 11:35:42 AM »

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Look, I can understand the concern about KG's knee and our age. I am actually somewhat apprehensive that KG can come back 100% healthy and play like the animal he's been his whole career. But it has more to do with his age and overall minutes in the league than it does with this specific injury. There were never any long term alarm bells put off with this injury and I really think it was simply a bone spur rubbing on the wrong spot. He should have had surjry at the beginning of the season and I think he will be fine regarding this specific injury. You always worry with the minutes he's played. But KG is also a Jordan type athlete. He could very well play at a high level until he's 35-36.

As for Pierce and Ray. I look at Ray as a Reggie Miller type and Pierce is only 32, it's not like he's 37 for God's sake. These three guys take incredible care of themselves too.

But again, I do understand people's and pundits concerns about age and why they don't pick us for that reason. I am just not that concerned about it, especially with the bench we're putting together.

People should also be sounding the alarm bell about a 31 year old Kobe Bryant who's played 13 seasons himself, may olympic team performances and many deep runs into the playoffs. But I forget, that is LA and Kobe is not susceptible to the same concerns as everyone else.

So I get all the age concerns but Bynum?  BYNUM? The guy is stiff, and he's a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.. He gives out a few cheap shots. But his fundamental core is that of a wuss. Game in, game out, he is inconsistent and when he is not clearly the biggest, strongest player on the floor, he disappears. I've been hearing form my firends here in LA how bynum is the next Wilt...WHAT? THE GUY HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO BE "BACK IN the groove and rotation last season and he barely got off the bench for their playoff runs.

You cannot teach toughness, people either are or they're not. it's the same for Gasol. He tries and he "acts" it but he isn't and never will be.

To suggest that the Lakers losing Bynum is like us having lost Garnett is like saying Bill Cartwirght was Like Bill Russell. Not even in the same league. You can't even measure what Garnett brings to all aspects of a game.

Bynum? an occasional good game, then the same old mopey headed lug running up and down the floor.