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Running Tips
« on: August 06, 2009, 08:53:48 AM »

Offline Rondo2287

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Hey Guys, Im currently training for a half marathon.  Every time I reach around the 7-8 mile point in my runs, my left shoulder gets really sore.  I think its because something is off with my running form or something.  If any of you have had this happen to you, or have any tips, send them my way! Thanks!
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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2009, 08:57:34 AM »

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How many miles are on your shoes? That's the first thing I would check with.

Beyond that it could very easily be something that better form can help. If your form is breaking down a lot after you begin to be fatigued that could cause shoulder pain. Especially if you've had an injury to it before.

Re: Running Tips
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2009, 09:02:54 AM »

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Havent had an injury to the shoulder before, but the shoes are starting to get a little old, I should probably look into getting new ones
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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 09:50:20 AM »

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I'm currently coming back from a left shoulder injury (and making awesome progress) and if their is one thing to use, it's ice.

ALWAYS stretch it before/after workouts and runs to keep it flexible and get circulation in. I'm not a Doc or PT but those two tips work wonders for my shoulder.
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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 10:07:47 AM »

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Havent had an injury to the shoulder before, but the shoes are starting to get a little old, I should probably look into getting new ones
Best thing to do is keep track of how many miles you're putting on your shoes. Depending on your height, weight, and the brand of shoe they'll become worn down at different mileages. There are a couple websites that can help you figure that out.

I'm a taller guy, and a bit heavier than I should be. So I need to buy new running shoes more frequently.

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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2009, 10:10:24 AM »

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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 03:19:14 PM »

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this may sound like a dumb or obvious question......but are u holding something in your hand on the same side as the sore shoulder, like an ipod?  if so, holding it may throw you off enough to get sore.  i use a strap that attached to your arm to your arms are free to move naturally.

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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 03:22:19 PM »

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Nah, not holding anything I use a belt clip for my ipod, I find it better than the arm strap. 
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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 07:42:16 AM »

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A trick I learned in a race walking class:  When you notice your shoulders tensing and raising take a breath and blow it out.  Your shoulders will go down to a more relaxed position.  Your shoulders and neck should not be tense.  Hope this helps.
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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 08:10:22 AM »

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Ya, I was reading that online and was gonna give it a try, its tougher than you think think though, trying to run and not break your stride while shaking out your shoulders LOL.  or maybe im just not that coordinated
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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 01:16:38 AM »

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Ya, I was reading that online and was gonna give it a try, its tougher than you think think though, trying to run and not break your stride while shaking out your shoulders LOL.  or maybe im just not that coordinated
That's another thing, work on breathing properly. It's really hard to do but it helps your performance a lot if you can keep it up.

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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 04:00:05 PM »

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I didn't mean to shake out your shoulders...if you just gently blow(like a big sigh)out a breath you shoulders should drop automatically.  It is remembering to keep them relaxed that is the problem.  Have to just keep doing it until it is automatic.  Try it when you are not running and you will see what I mean.
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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 04:10:08 PM »

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This is knowledge from my triatlon years via wiki
it usually doesnt hurt as high as shoulder but who knows
other thing is try to release arms from once in a while, while running and run without moving them for a couple of humdred meters at mid training.

yes beleive it or not I used to be a 8 hours a day triathlete.
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 Pronation
In anatomy, pronation is a rotational movement of the forearm (at the radioulnar joint) or foot (at the subtalar and talocalcaneonavicular joints)[1]. Pronation of the foot refers to how the body distributes weight as it cycles through the gait. Types of pronation include neutral pronation, underpronation (supination), and overpronation.


[edit] Neutral Pronation
An individual who neutrally pronates initially strikes the ground on the lateral side of the heel. As the individual transfers weight from the heel to the metatarsus, the foot will roll in a medial direction, such that the weight is distributed evenly across the metatarsus. In this stage of the gait, the knee will generally, but not always, track directly over the hallux.

This "rolling inwards" motion as the foot progresses from heel to toe is the way that the body naturally absorbs shock. Neutral pronation is the most ideal, efficient type of gait.


[edit] Overpronation
As with a neutral pronator, an individual who overpronates initially strikes the ground on the lateral side of the heel. As the individual transfers weight from the heel to the metatarsus, however, the foot will roll too far in a medial direction, such that the weight is distributed unevenly across the metatarsus, with excessive weight borne on the hallux. In this stage of the gait, the knee will generally, but not always, track inwards.

An overpronator does not absorb shock efficiently. Imagine someone jumping onto a diving board, but the board is so flimsy that when it is struck, it bends and allows the person to plunge straight down into the water instead of back into the air. Similarly, an overpronator's arches will collapse, or the ankles will roll inwards (or a combination of the two) as they cycle through the gait.

An individual whose bone structure involves external rotation at the hip, knee, or ankle will be more likely to overpronate than one whose bone structure has internal rotation or central alignment.


[edit] Underpronation (supination)
An individual who underpronates also initially strikes the ground on the lateral side of the heel. As the individual transfers weight from the heel to the metatarsus, the foot will not roll far enough in a medial direction. The weight is distributed unevenly across the metatarsus, with excessive weight borne on the fifth metatarsal, towards the lateral side of the foot. In this stage of the gait, the knee will generally, but not always, track laterally of the hallux.

Like an overpronator, an underpronator does not absorb shock efficiently - but for the opposite reason. The underpronated foot is like a diving board that, instead of failing to spring someone in the air because it is too flimsy, fails to do so because it is too rigid. There is virtually no give. An underpronator's arches or ankles don't experience much motion as they cycle through the gait.

An individual whose bone structure involves internal rotation at the hip, knee, or ankle will be more likely to underpronate than one whose bone structure has external rotation or central alignment. Usually - but not always - those who are bow-legged tend to underpronate.

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Re: Running Tips
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 04:28:24 PM »

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I get shuolder soreness just from the repeated (but small movement.) My best advice is to get used to it. Beyond that lift weights, stretch AFTER excercise, and hydrate.