Mark Murphy update: Moon interest waning, other S & Ts waxing

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I think Kleiza and Warrick are off the board. They'd cost too much, in both salary and trade assets. I don't think they're attainable.

Disagree. A Warrick for Baby deal makes alot of sense for both teams and their salaries are likely to be pretty close, making the BYC situation more managable.

Why do you think Memphis be interested in Glen Davis?

They already have Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet, Zach Randolph and Darrell Arthur. I think their big man rotation is fairly set. I don't see the Grizzlies paying Davis substantial money + years, when they already have those guys on the books.

If they were interested in BBD, then yeah, a trade could make good sense there and the BYC situation balances itself out.

Darrell Arthur did jack last year -- yes, he's looked a little better in summer league, but Memphis could view his as inferior to Baby in a variety of catagories including defense, rebounding and shooting. Gasol's gonna start and play at the 5 because Thabeet is going to be lost on the floor for a couple of years.

I take the point of view that they're not likely to want to pay Warrick for a number of years, and would probably prefer to get something back for him. But they are thin at the SF position, so maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree here. Worth investigating though.

Memphis could also be a good partner in a Boozer based deal involving Miami and the Celtics -- i.e. Boozer to Miami, Baby, Scal, TA and change to Utah, and Moon, Chalmers and change to Boston. MEM's cap space could help even out salaries.

Minor thing. Darrell Arthur is a much better rebounder than Big Baby. Arthur grabbed 11.3 RP48M Baby grabbed 9.3 RP48M. Arthur's and Baby offensive rebounding %'s were almost exactly the same with Arthur at 7.9% and Baby at 8.1%. Arthur though is a much better defensive rebounder getting an offensive rebounding % of 18.4 % to Baby's 12.4%.

Factor in that Baby was a two year veteran and Arthur just a rookie and that Arthur is a real 6'9" not a Big Baby 6'9", Arthur has some ups and Baby does not and that Arthur has some length and Baby does not and I think it's safe to say that he probably always will be a better rebounder

i like arthur too.

ok, here's my trade on this:

BOS Trades:

Baby signed for 4.5 mil for X years
Scal (3.4, 1 year)
TA (2.5, 1 year)
Giddens (1, 1 year)
Pruitt (825k, 1 year)

BOS receives:

Blount (7.9, 1 year)
Chalmers (760K, 1 year)
Moon signed for 3 mil for X years

Utah trades:

Boozer (12.6, 1 year)

Utah receives:

Baby signed for 4.5 mil for X years
Scal (3.4, 1 year)
TA (2.5, 1 year)
Giddens (1, 1 year)

Miami trades:

Blount (7.9, 1 year)
Chalmers (760K, 1 year)
Moon signed for 3 mil for X years

Miami receives:

Boozer (12.6, 1 year)
Pruitt (825k, 1 year)

If necessary, Utah turns around and ships TA to Memphis with cash from them and Boston to pay his salary.

I'm pretty sure this works under both cap and BYC rules. I think TA is a BYC player too which complicates things slightly, but it's close.

Are you really suggesting Blount to Boston?

wow, now that would be opening Pandora's Box on this site.   

i sure am baby. think about how much fun it would be for all the guys to laugh at him all practice while KG and Sheed dunk on him and cuss in his face....

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I think Kleiza and Warrick are off the board. They'd cost too much, in both salary and trade assets. I don't think they're attainable.

Disagree. A Warrick for Baby deal makes alot of sense for both teams and their salaries are likely to be pretty close, making the BYC situation more managable.

Why do you think Memphis be interested in Glen Davis?

They already have Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet, Zach Randolph and Darrell Arthur. I think their big man rotation is fairly set. I don't see the Grizzlies paying Davis substantial money + years, when they already have those guys on the books.

If they were interested in BBD, then yeah, a trade could make good sense there and the BYC situation balances itself out.

Darrell Arthur did jack last year -- yes, he's looked a little better in summer league, but Memphis could view his as inferior to Baby in a variety of catagories including defense, rebounding and shooting. Gasol's gonna start and play at the 5 because Thabeet is going to be lost on the floor for a couple of years.

I take the point of view that they're not likely to want to pay Warrick for a number of years, and would probably prefer to get something back for him. But they are thin at the SF position, so maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree here. Worth investigating though.

Memphis could also be a good partner in a Boozer based deal involving Miami and the Celtics -- i.e. Boozer to Miami, Baby, Scal, TA and change to Utah, and Moon, Chalmers and change to Boston. MEM's cap space could help even out salaries.

Sounds good to me.