Hop on the Rasheed bandwagon while it's still got room...

[bdm860]

No wagon for me!  In fact, if there was a poll to ask who the exact antithesis of a Celtic would be..... my top name would be Wallace.  I have disliked his game and his attitude since college.  Red would NEVER have wanted him on this team and I don't either.  Sorry.

A guy that plays defense, athletic, tall, is unselfish, and his teammates love him.  

Yeah, I could see why Red wouldn't want him.



He is the perfect fit because

a) he plays defense.  The Celtics are a defensive team 1st.

b) he is tall.  Must have on the bench.  Works well with both starters and Davis/Powe/Scali

c) he is unselfish.  He has always put winning over his own stats.  That is what the Celtics stars do.

If you can't see why Red wouldn't want him on the C's then you are blind or are ignoring his major faults.

haha, i hate to break it to ya, but this ain't the 50's anymore! we need passion, emotion, and energy off the bench. everyone's so freaking concerned about his age, but what's it gonna matter? let the guy get T'd up every game, and he'll get suspended every now and then so he can stay rested for the playoffs!

that said, i'm so on board...do or die baby!

oh, how bout this nickname: ra-T'd? maybe i'll make a t-shirt...

Even back in the day, Red took chances on players.
To say Red wouldn't sign a player like Sheed is unfounded I think.  Red had Marvin "Bad News" Barnes playing for him! Barnes snorted coke on the Celtics bench during games! He was nicknamed "Bad News!" I mean come on now, if the guy could play Red would take him.  You might as well say Dean Smith wouldn't take a chance on a guy like Sheed, soneone who would get ejected from the McDonalds game.

EDIT - And add this to the list too.  Marvin Barnes had recently served a 6 months prison sentence before Red and the Celtics aquired him in a trade!

[wdleehi]

No wagon for me!  In fact, if there was a poll to ask who the exact antithesis of a Celtic would be..... my top name would be Wallace.  I have disliked his game and his attitude since college.  Red would NEVER have wanted him on this team and I don't either.  Sorry.

A guy that plays defense, athletic, tall, is unselfish, and his teammates love him.  

Yeah, I could see why Red wouldn't want him.



He is the perfect fit because

a) he plays defense.  The Celtics are a defensive team 1st.

b) he is tall.  Must have on the bench.  Works well with both starters and Davis/Powe/Scali

c) he is unselfish.  He has always put winning over his own stats.  That is what the Celtics stars do.

If you can't see why Red wouldn't want him on the C's then you are blind or are ignoring his major faults.

Red took chances on players with prickly personalities and reputations for being a "cancer"; one such player was Dennis Johnson.

The concern with Rasheed is that he seemed to quit on the Pistons this year.  *That* isn't necessarily the type of character flaw that you want to overlook (although it worked for the Pats with Randy Moss.)

I don't see the similarities with Randy Moss and I'm aware of his stint in LA (which was a horrible situation for everyone).  Sheed has directly cost his team several points at crucial times in games because he has horrible attitude. Moss also was being still at the top of his game can produce enough to make you forget about his transgressions.  As bad rap as Randy Moss ever got I never looked at him like I do Sheed.

The front office cost the team.

1) fired a competent coach that was getting the team to the conference finals every year.

2) Hired a 1st time NBA head coach that lasted one season

3) Traded away their PG.  He made it to a conference final again this season on a team that had been a one and doner. 

4) Replaced their PG with a shoot first small, aging SG.  He has been on many one and done teams recently.  Detroit became a one and doner. 


So on a bad team, he didn't give it his all. 

But every year when he was on a good team, he did. 


Celtics are a very good team. 

[silvershamrocker]

This is pretty funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iegki4o1VWo

Typical Sheed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG8BY80BxPA

[RAcker]

my working title for the post I put up after a Sheed signing

"Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Sheed"

And as always, the Kubrick reference (particularly of that film) earns you a TP good sir.

[Birdbrain]

No wagon for me!  In fact, if there was a poll to ask who the exact antithesis of a Celtic would be..... my top name would be Wallace.  I have disliked his game and his attitude since college.  Red would NEVER have wanted him on this team and I don't either.  Sorry.

A guy that plays defense, athletic, tall, is unselfish, and his teammates love him.  

Yeah, I could see why Red wouldn't want him.



He is the perfect fit because

a) he plays defense.  The Celtics are a defensive team 1st.

b) he is tall.  Must have on the bench.  Works well with both starters and Davis/Powe/Scali

c) he is unselfish.  He has always put winning over his own stats.  That is what the Celtics stars do.

If you can't see why Red wouldn't want him on the C's then you are blind or are ignoring his major faults.

Red took chances on players with prickly personalities and reputations for being a "cancer"; one such player was Dennis Johnson.

The concern with Rasheed is that he seemed to quit on the Pistons this year.  *That* isn't necessarily the type of character flaw that you want to overlook (although it worked for the Pats with Randy Moss.)

I don't see the similarities with Randy Moss and I'm aware of his stint in LA (which was a horrible situation for everyone).  Sheed has directly cost his team several points at crucial times in games because he has horrible attitude. Moss also was being still at the top of his game can produce enough to make you forget about his transgressions.  As bad rap as Randy Moss ever got I never looked at him like I do Sheed.

The front office cost the team.

1) fired a competent coach that was getting the team to the conference finals every year.

2) Hired a 1st time NBA head coach that lasted one season

3) Traded away their PG.  He made it to a conference final again this season on a team that had been a one and doner. 

4) Replaced their PG with a shoot first small, aging SG.  He has been on many one and done teams recently.  Detroit became a one and doner. 


So on a bad team, he didn't give it his all. 

But every year when he was on a good team, he did. 


Celtics are a very good team. 

I agree with you in regards to him playing hard on the C's.  I'm on board the bandwagon I'm just hoping it turns out well. 

[feckless]

Even back in the day, Red took chances on players.
To say Red wouldn't sign a player like Sheed is unfounded I think.  Red had Marvin "Bad News" Barnes playing for him! Barnes snorted coke on the Celtics bench during games! He was nicknamed "Bad News!" I mean come on now, if the guy could play Red would take him.  You might as well say Dean Smith wouldn't take a chance on a guy like Sheed, soneone who would get ejected from the McDonalds game.

EDIT - And add this to the list too.  Marvin Barnes had recently served a 6 months prison sentence before Red and the Celtics aquired him in a trade!


Don't know if it has any truth but at the time there was a rumor that Marvin Barnes had been involved in a hold-up wearing a letter jacket with "Marvin B" on the front!   Even if not true it makes a great story.

[perks-a-beast]

OP, how can you forget this gem?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UKixDrcQ7A

[greg683x]

No wagon for me!  In fact, if there was a poll to ask who the exact antithesis of a Celtic would be..... my top name would be Wallace.  I have disliked his game and his attitude since college.  Red would NEVER have wanted him on this team and I don't either.  Sorry.

A guy that plays defense, athletic, tall, is unselfish, and his teammates love him.  

Yeah, I could see why Red wouldn't want him.



He is the perfect fit because

a) he plays defense.  The Celtics are a defensive team 1st.

b) he is tall.  Must have on the bench.  Works well with both starters and Davis/Powe/Scali

c) he is unselfish.  He has always put winning over his own stats.  That is what the Celtics stars do.

If you can't see why Red wouldn't want him on the C's then you are blind or are ignoring his major faults.

haha, i hate to break it to ya, but this ain't the 50's anymore! we need passion, emotion, and energy off the bench. everyone's so freaking concerned about his age, but what's it gonna matter? let the guy get T'd up every game, and he'll get suspended every now and then so he can stay rested for the playoffs!
that said, i'm so on board...do or die baby!

oh, how bout this nickname: ra-T'd? maybe i'll make a t-shirt...

Actually I believe the rule is, if you get T'd up a certain amount of times i think its like 18 or something, you get suspended when you reach that amount, then suspended again after every Tech there on after.  I think in the playoffs you only get like 7 techs before that rule comes in effect.  The last two years Detriots been competative in the playoffs 2007,2008, Sheed had been flirting with suspension both times.

I dont mind having the guy on the team and i think he could be a great aquisition, but all Im saying is, if we're playing the Lakers in the finals next year and he gets some bone head tech that gets him suspended for a crucial game 6 or 7 which could cost us the series.....I'll lose my **** mind if he cost us a series against the Lakers.

I'd welcome Sheed with open arms, but for the record I'll take the same defensive intensity, similar (though not as good) offensive skills, and a better grip on his emotions that comes with Antonio McDyess.

[fairweatherfan06]

I think we are squarely 3rd on his list (if only because of KG)

He could start in Oralndo beside Dwight with Rashard at the 3 they look formidable or he could be PF/C in San Antonio (preferable from our viewpoint because he's out the east) either way why would he give up starting to play backup here (not interested in him anyway).

[SamuelAdams]

Taking odds on Sheed and Perk on T total. 

[Evantime34]

I think we are squarely 3rd on his list (if only because of KG)

He could start in Oralndo beside Dwight with Rashard at the 3 they look formidable or he could be PF/C in San Antonio (preferable from our viewpoint because he's out the east) either way why would he give up starting to play backup here (not interested in him anyway).

Because we have the best starting line up in basketball. For a chance to play with KG. For a chance to regularly stick it to Detroit (which Orlando can also do). Get on the bandwagon now while there's still room.

[housecall]

"unselfish and teammates love him"

Are you sure you are talking about the same guy?  He is one of the most selfish player to ever play!  What is MORE selfish than getting stupid technical fouls that cost your team games?  What is MORE selfish than getting ejected in the 4th of a close playoff game?

Plenty of other guys play defense and are tall (seriously.... TALL is one of your criteria?).

As for putting winning over his stats, puuuuuuulease!!!!  How about putting his team before his tantrums?  

Give me a Marion or someone else, shoot, I would rather have Robert freakin' Swift than this guy who was given MORE TALENT than almost any player ever and has had a career that nobody will remember for it.

I was with you all the way until i read Marion...someone im not impressed with lately.

Also,no one has brought up the injury issues that Sheed appeared to have in the last few months of the season.Sheed was limping around like a 40yr.old man.Im not sure he would be someone we could count on near playoff time.Some guys are use to being backup players and can give you instant offense and play well in short spurts.How do we know if Sheed can get motivated from playing a backup role enough to give us the production needed.He has always been a starter that had to play big minutes to be productive.

[Edgar]

"unselfish and teammates love him"

Are you sure you are talking about the same guy?  He is one of the most selfish player to ever play!  What is MORE selfish than getting stupid technical fouls that cost your team games?  What is MORE selfish than getting ejected in the 4th of a close playoff game?

Plenty of other guys play defense and are tall (seriously.... TALL is one of your criteria?).

As for putting winning over his stats, puuuuuuulease!!!!  How about putting his team before his tantrums?  

Give me a Marion or someone else, shoot, I would rather have Robert freakin' Swift than this guy who was given MORE TALENT than almost any player ever and has had a career that nobody will remember for it.

I was with you all the way until i read Marion...someone im not impressed with lately.

Also,no one has brought up the injury issues that Sheed appeared to have in the last few months of the season.Sheed was limping around like a 40yr.old man.Im not sure he would be someone we could count on near playoff time.Some guys are use to being backup players and can give you instant offense and play well in short spurts.How do we know if Sheed can get motivated from playing a backup role enough to give us the production needed.He has always been a starter that had to play big minutes to be productive.

well in order to be fair PJ wasnt exactly a flower blossom
and yes ges a chmpion too

[vjcsmoke]

Sheed would be a really good fit.  Play him 30 mpg and watch him score 12 ppg with 7.5 rpg and 1.5 blocked shots?  Yes please.  Not to mention he can shoot the ball as well as the 3.  He would save so much wear and tear on KG throughout the season and also come in when Perk gets into foul trouble.  The Celtics big men would be so much deeper and talented with a guy like Wallace.  I don't know if it's gonna happen but it would be cool if it did.

[ToppersBsktball10]

haha My dad's friend was at a Celtic's game and the guy next to him screamed at Rasheed when he was arguing a call "Hey, Rasheed shut up, you don't want another technical!"  And Sheed said back "Yeah, I'm gonna get a technical for knocking out a dumb ass fan!" lol i find that hilarious