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Re: Ray Allen Wants a Contract Extension
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2009, 05:59:45 PM »

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just reiterating my question from the home page:

what is  a "league executive"?

  Usually someone that works in a deli, but sometimes it's someone that's actually associated with an nba team.
League executive usually is code someone who works in an NBA front office or for the league.

why would a "league executive" know that:

A. Ray wants to extend with the Cs
B. the Cs said definitely "No"

  Why would Ray Allen not want an extension?

  And the Celts probably didn't say "No". They probably said "we'll talk about it later". Here's a blurb from a Herald article about a week ago http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1178864&srvc=rss :

  Yes, a Rondo contract extension is also up for discussion, as is how to handle Ray Allen, who is heading into the last year (worth $19.8 million) of his deal.

“Those are issues we’re not going to deal with until probably September and October, but definitely not in the summer,” Ainge said of Rondo and Allen. “Our priority is to get this team situated for next year.”

the rumor being reported is that Ray wants an extension and that he's not going to get it in Boston.

the rumor isn't Ray Allen wants an extension because why wouldn't he want an extension, but he's not going to get it right now because Danny isn't going to even look at until September or October....

  You need to rephrase that, because I don't know what you're saying.

Re: Ray Allen Wants a Contract Extension
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2009, 06:08:25 PM »

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just reiterating my question from the home page:

what is  a "league executive"?

  Usually someone that works in a deli, but sometimes it's someone that's actually associated with an nba team.
League executive usually is code someone who works in an NBA front office or for the league.

why would a "league executive" know that:

A. Ray wants to extend with the Cs
B. the Cs said definitely "No"

  Why would Ray Allen not want an extension?

  And the Celts probably didn't say "No". They probably said "we'll talk about it later". Here's a blurb from a Herald article about a week ago http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1178864&srvc=rss :

  Yes, a Rondo contract extension is also up for discussion, as is how to handle Ray Allen, who is heading into the last year (worth $19.8 million) of his deal.

“Those are issues we’re not going to deal with until probably September and October, but definitely not in the summer,” Ainge said of Rondo and Allen. “Our priority is to get this team situated for next year.”

the rumor being reported is that Ray wants an extension and that he's not going to get it in Boston.

the rumor isn't Ray Allen wants an extension because why wouldn't he want an extension, but he's not going to get it right now because Danny isn't going to even look at until September or October....

  You need to rephrase that, because I don't know what you're saying.

i questioned how a "league executive" would know that that Ray is trying to get an extension to stay in Boston and that he's not going to get one.

your response was there's no reason for Ray not to be trying get an extension to stay in Boston (speculation and not knowledge) and that Danny has said publicly that he won't look at the idea of extended Ray here until Sept/Oct (much different than saying he won't get an extension)

Re: Ray Allen Wants a Contract Extension
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2009, 09:45:51 PM »

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just reiterating my question from the home page:

what is  a "league executive"?

  Usually someone that works in a deli, but sometimes it's someone that's actually associated with an nba team.
League executive usually is code someone who works in an NBA front office or for the league.

why would a "league executive" know that:

A. Ray wants to extend with the Cs
B. the Cs said definitely "No"

  Why would Ray Allen not want an extension?

  And the Celts probably didn't say "No". They probably said "we'll talk about it later". Here's a blurb from a Herald article about a week ago http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1178864&srvc=rss :

  Yes, a Rondo contract extension is also up for discussion, as is how to handle Ray Allen, who is heading into the last year (worth $19.8 million) of his deal.

“Those are issues we’re not going to deal with until probably September and October, but definitely not in the summer,” Ainge said of Rondo and Allen. “Our priority is to get this team situated for next year.”

the rumor being reported is that Ray wants an extension and that he's not going to get it in Boston.

the rumor isn't Ray Allen wants an extension because why wouldn't he want an extension, but he's not going to get it right now because Danny isn't going to even look at until September or October....

  You need to rephrase that, because I don't know what you're saying.

i questioned how a "league executive" would know that that Ray is trying to get an extension to stay in Boston and that he's not going to get one.

your response was there's no reason for Ray not to be trying get an extension to stay in Boston (speculation and not knowledge) and that Danny has said publicly that he won't look at the idea of extended Ray here until Sept/Oct (much different than saying he won't get an extension)

  I'd be more inclined to listen to what Danny said earlier this week than the opinion of an unnamed source.

Re: Ray Allen Wants a Contract Extension
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2009, 10:48:57 PM »

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Though this wouldn't make Wyc happy for one year, I think it would make good sense for the team to extend Ray one year, even if it is at max dollars.  That way the C's can hold onto him this year, see if they win the title, then reevaluate things next summer.  If he's re-upped at max dollars, all the trade scenarios coming up this summer will come up next summer as well. 
Max dollars?! We are talking 20 million x 2 because because of the salary cap. Beyond horrible idea and completely unnecessary.
 

Who are you, Wyc's financial adviser?  Because that's about the only person who should get upset in such a deal. 

In all seriousness, I agree that Ray probably isn't worth max dollars after this year.  However, being that you and I aren't paying Ray's salary and being that with Rondo's likely extension the C's aren't going to be anywhere near under the cap any time soon, how much Ray makes really doesn't matter.  All I'm saying is that right now Ray is a pretty desirable commodity because a team that trades for him can dump salary and get a decent player for a year.  The problem is, we want to keep this team together for at least another year to win a title.  Extending Ray for one year at at least 10 million dollars solves all our problems.  It allows him to stay around one more year and it allow the C's the opportunity to still turn him into something big in a trade if they decide to trade him next summer. 


Re: Ray Allen Wants a Contract Extension
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2009, 11:38:48 PM »

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Though this wouldn't make Wyc happy for one year, I think it would make good sense for the team to extend Ray one year, even if it is at max dollars.  That way the C's can hold onto him this year, see if they win the title, then reevaluate things next summer.  If he's re-upped at max dollars, all the trade scenarios coming up this summer will come up next summer as well. 
Max dollars?! We are talking 20 million x 2 because because of the salary cap. Beyond horrible idea and completely unnecessary.
 

Who are you, Wyc's financial adviser?  Because that's about the only person who should get upset in such a deal. 

In all seriousness, I agree that Ray probably isn't worth max dollars after this year.  However, being that you and I aren't paying Ray's salary and being that with Rondo's likely extension the C's aren't going to be anywhere near under the cap any time soon, how much Ray makes really doesn't matter.  A


Wyc and Danny have both admitted there is an overall budget for the Celtics payroll. So as fans we have every right to be upset if we feel that Danny spent far too much of his budget on a great but aging shooting guard.

Re: Ray Allen Wants a Contract Extension
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2009, 05:16:57 PM »

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just reiterating my question from the home page:

what is  a "league executive"?

maybe GMs from around the league?  or perhaps Stern's henchmen

it's weird, right?

why would they know anything about Ray Allen wanting an extension with the Cs and why would they know the Cs intentions?
By the way, "league executive" probably refers to our ex...you know, Lucky.   ;)