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Re: NOH desparate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 03:19:58 PM »

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Yeah, i had just seen that too. if it's true, they'd have to think about such a trade.  I think they'd want to dump chandler and peja though:

Ray
Rondo
scal
eddie
tony
walker
pruitt
giddens

for

Paul
peja
chandler

roster:

paul
peja
pierce
kg
chandler

perk
baby
cheap guards...who knows.
Keep in mind that adding players with guaranteed contracts does not necessarily make the deal better for the other team. Why would they want to take Giddens, for example? Why would they want to pay Pruitt? There is no reason who add all our unneeded players in the trade to make it a 8 for 3.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 03:25:15 PM »

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would new orleans do chandler for Scal, tony, eddie, and giddens?

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 03:26:25 PM »

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With Paul, we could be talking one of the best 3 point guards of all time. Depends on how bad the financial situation in NOLA is.
Best 3 of all time?  you're kidding right?  Or did you just start following the NBA?

Pray tell who you consider to be the 2 better than him just so I'll know by process of elimination who you consider worse than him.  He's very good from what I've seen.  No argument with him being considered one of the top 3 currently but saying 'all time' puts your judgement in question.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 03:30:09 PM »

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With Paul, we could be talking one of the best 3 point guards of all time. Depends on how bad the financial situation in NOLA is.
Best 3 of all time?  you're kidding right?  Or did you just start following the NBA?

Pray tell who you consider to be the 2 better than him just so I'll know by process of elimination who you consider worse than him.  He's very good from what I've seen.  No argument with him being considered one of the top 3 currently but saying 'all time' puts your judgement in question.

He is without a doubt the best point guard in the league right now. This can not even be argued against.

I said "could be talking one of the best 3 of all time". I implied that to be in the future, and I'm sorry if it didn't come across that way. And, as it is right now, he is on pace with what Isiah and Magic did.

Re: NOH desparate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 03:45:47 PM »

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Yeah, i had just seen that too. if it's true, they'd have to think about such a trade.  I think they'd want to dump chandler and peja though:

Ray
Rondo
scal
eddie
tony
walker
pruitt
giddens

for

Paul
peja
chandler

roster:

paul
peja
pierce
kg
chandler

perk
baby
cheap guards...who knows.
Keep in mind that adding players with guaranteed contracts does not necessarily make the deal better for the other team. Why would they want to take Giddens, for example? Why would they want to pay Pruitt? There is no reason who add all our unneeded players in the trade to make it a 8 for 3.


all the players listed for the celtics have either expiring or non-guaranteed contracts after next season and i needed to include all of them to build up enough salary to enable the celtics to take back paul, chandler, and peja. they can let giddens go and not pay him beyond next year; they could even do that with rondo. of course there is a league minimum salary they have to hit, but overall this trade would wipe 40 million off of their books after next season if they really needed to so badly that they'd give up paul.

Re: NOH desparate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 03:49:31 PM »

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I'm not sure how that BS trade is any better than just letting it play out till CP is unhappy. It's not like you are getting core players in return.

If i was going to trade CP (not that i would) i would trade him for a top pick and expiring/shorter deals.

like to the Clipps for #1, Camby and RickyD or MEM for #1, Milicic and Buckner, etc...

you are getting a core player. rondo is a core player. if he were in the draft this year, with his current skills, where would he go? and ray allen is no slouch as a value add to the franchise as they try to sell.
Mike

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Re: NOH desparate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 03:50:42 PM »

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I'm not sure how that BS trade is any better than just letting it play out till CP is unhappy. It's not like you are getting core players in return.

If i was going to trade CP (not that i would) i would trade him for a top pick and expiring/shorter deals.

like to the Clipps for #1, Camby and RickyD or MEM for #1, Milicic and Buckner, etc...

you are getting a core player. rondo is a core player. if he were in the draft this year, with his current skills, where would he go? and ray allen is no slouch as a value add to the franchise as they try to sell.


Rondo would go 1 or 2 in the draft.

Re: NOH desparate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2009, 04:00:03 PM »

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I'm not sure how that BS trade is any better than just letting it play out till CP is unhappy. It's not like you are getting core players in return.

If i was going to trade CP (not that i would) i would trade him for a top pick and expiring/shorter deals.

like to the Clipps for #1, Camby and RickyD or MEM for #1, Milicic and Buckner, etc...

you are getting a core player. rondo is a core player. if he were in the draft this year, with his current skills, where would he go? and ray allen is no slouch as a value add to the franchise as they try to sell.


Rondo would go 1 or 2 in the draft.

i agree. now, they will have to pay him. but this is not about whether chris paul is wirht his money or rondo is worth his money. it's about the concept of whether they HAVE to trade paul in order to get some combo of chandler, peja, posey and mo pete out the door and therefore avoid bankrupcy.
Mike

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Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2009, 04:36:49 PM »

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New Orleans joins the list of 6 teams that should be contracted if they trade CP3 for financial reasons.
Wins are few, times are hard. Here is your bleeping St Patricks Day Card.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2009, 06:19:55 PM »

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Nonsense rumour -- New Orleans are not trading Paul without getting an MVP candidate in return, and even they may not do it.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2009, 07:12:14 PM »

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I would definitely be contacting the Hornets for purchasing the 21st pick in the draft. We could get a guy like Dejuan Blair, Jrue Holiday or DaJuan Summers at that point in the draft.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2009, 07:45:30 PM »

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Should they have a team in New Orleans if this is what you get? (penny pinching etc). Move them to OKC and give Seattle back the Sonics.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2009, 04:34:52 AM »

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With Paul, we could be talking one of the best 3 point guards of all time. Depends on how bad the financial situation in NOLA is.
Best 3 of all time?  you're kidding right?  Or did you just start following the NBA?

Pray tell who you consider to be the 2 better than him just so I'll know by process of elimination who you consider worse than him.  He's very good from what I've seen.  No argument with him being considered one of the top 3 currently but saying 'all time' puts your judgement in question.

He is without a doubt the best point guard in the league right now. This can not even be argued against.

I said "could be talking one of the best 3 of all time". I implied that to be in the future, and I'm sorry if it didn't come across that way. And, as it is right now, he is on pace with what Isiah and Magic did.


Potential does not make you one of the top 3 at any position of all time. Accomplishment does.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2009, 04:49:39 AM »

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wow.  not a single post saying, "NO WAY WOULD I GIVE UP RONDO FOR CHRIS PAUL!".  Really guys?  I'm shocked.  I was certain there would be like 10 posts saying, "rondo/cp is even and then you're giving away ray allen for free".  Maybe this fanbase is growing up.

Re: NOH desperate to shed salary, even at the expense of Paul?
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2009, 07:25:23 AM »

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All of the small market teams are struggling, with the possible exception of OK City.  The Bobcat franchise is being actively shopped, and the Memphis franchise has been up for sale for at least two years.

They will do their best to trade Peja, Chandler and Posey, but they won't trade Chris Paul or David West. If they trade Chris Paul, no one will come watch them.