Should we expect an Orlando Magic rollover and mutiny?

[crownsy]

In the somber aftermath, all-star center Dwight Howard questioned why he got just 10 shot attempts.

"If you have a dominant offensive player, let him dominate," he said. "Coaches have to recognize what's working on the floor and stick to it."

Did Howard really call himself a "dominant offensive player"? Perks one-on-one defense pretty much shuts him down offensively.

This quote is like if Rondo said "if you have a sharp shooter such as myself you need to stick with it"

the fact remains that he's right.

 their entire team is based off Howard causing havok in the low post and getting guys in foul trouble and thus demanding doubles so his 4 shooters get open looks.

Perk is a very good defender on howard, but why on earth would you make his job easier as SVG by not going at him in the post and letting perk stay out of foul trouble? Don't you want to exploit our lack of depth in the front court?

 If they could get a few cheap fouls on perk, then our other defenders have to double, and thus thier offense runs.

10 touches for howard all game while skip to my lou rates 16 is ridiculous. SVG killed them by deciding that they would put it in hedo's hands yet again in the 4th and ignore their big man. Hedo is probably the one guy we have a very good lock on defensively in iso's. Not only is paul his main defender, but since hedo rarley passes once he starts his drive, perk is free to help with no threat of a pass to howard.

Why they don't go to howard and lewis playing a two man game on the left side of the floor more astounds me, it almost always results in a good shot attempt or lane for lewis, doubly so when perk is out and baby and scal are the two defenders in the switch. They do a good job, but they are out manned by howard and lewis. instead SVG keeps pushing hedo iso's.

I hope they keep it up though, love to win in 6.  

[Celtic]

I doubt they rollover, but it is a built in excuse, and when you have one of those there is a little less disappointment in a loss, potentially leading to earlier acceptance of a loss.

I am afraid that SVG is gone at the end of the year and they go after our boy Tom Thib, with all the mobile size on that team, if he got them to focus on defense, they would get a lot better.

[nickagneta]

In the somber aftermath, all-star center Dwight Howard questioned why he got just 10 shot attempts.

"If you have a dominant offensive player, let him dominate," he said. "Coaches have to recognize what's working on the floor and stick to it."

Did Howard really call himself a "dominant offensive player"? Perks one-on-one defense pretty much shuts him down offensively.

This quote is like if Rondo said "if you have a sharp shooter such as myself you need to stick with it"

the fact remains that he's right.

 their entire team is based off Howard causing havok in the low post and getting guys in foul trouble and thus demanding doubles so his 4 shooters get open looks.

Perk is a very good defender on howard, but why on earth would you make his job easier as SVG by not going at him in the post and letting perk stay out of foul trouble? Don't you want to exploit our lack of depth in the front court?

 If they could get a few cheap fouls on perk, then our other defenders have to double, and thus thier offense runs.

10 touches for howard all game while skip to my lou rates 16 is ridiculous. SVG killed them by deciding that they would put it in hedo's hands yet again in the 4th and ignore their big man. Hedo is probably the one guy we have a very good lock on defensively in iso's. Not only is paul his main defender, but since hedo rarley passes once he starts his drive, perk is free to help with no threat of a pass to howard.

Why they don't go to howard and lewis playing a two man game on the left side of the floor more astounds me, it almost always results in a good shot attempt or lane for lewis, doubly so when perk is out and baby and scal are the two defenders in the switch. They do a good job, but they are out manned by howard and lewis. instead SVG keeps pushing hedo iso's.

I hope they keep it up though, love to win in 6.  

I hated seeing 599TPs and thought you are right on about a Lewis/Howard two man game and trying to exploit Celtic big man foul trouble so TP4U and Congrats.

One thing I don't get about Van Gundy is he knows that two of the Celtics three big men in their big man rotation are foul prone but instead of playing Twin Towers with two lowpost players posting up the C's and drawing fouls, it's like he almost runs plays exclusively to take three pointers by keeping one of his bigs in three point land looking for a kick out.

The fact is, every time the Magic have decided to go into the paint to score for long periods of times, usually early in games, they have dominated the Celtics. Yet late in games its Hedo isos at the three point line, Alston and Redick three pointers and almost no touches to the big men that have all the advantages over their defenders.

Perplexing!!

[fairweatherfan]

We shouldn't expect it, but we sure can hope like hell for it 

I think the OP is misreading the Redick quote though - it's consistent with what SVG said in postgame.  Redick isn't saying "SVG told us to stall and not try to run", he's saying, "SVG told us we WERE stalling and not trying to run (and presumably that it was a bad thing)."  The Howard comments are pretty troublesome if you're an Orlando fan though - like Kenny Smith said, it's one thing to demand the ball in person, it's another to demand it in the paper. 

PS: Van Gundy sure is putting this "Master of Panic" stuff to bed this series, huh? 

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

Regardless of weather Van Gundy has lost his team or not they will not "roll over and die/play dead". They simply have too much pride to let the Celtics walk all over them in their own building.

[Redz]

I hope the Celts don't come in expecting that because they'd get rolled over if they do (see Lakers game 4 vs Houston).

The Magic know they can beat the Celts, and they need the game.

I expect another battle.

[QuinielaBox]

Common sense might suggest "Yes" but I say otherwise.

If Orlando comes out on an 8-0 run to start Game Six, then momentum from last night is nothing. Plus, they're playing at home.  However, it will really be up to Orlando's acumen and mental toughness. 

I'd also just like to point out that after the C's cameback and stunned the Nets after Game 6 in '02, newspapers and radio hosts were saying that the Nets were dead and the series was over.  We all know how that series ended so we should heed that warning.

Exactly, thank you, Donoghus. The Celtics are benefitting from last years championship experience and their collective will is going to get us to the next round. Unfortunately, Cleveland is on another level and we are still shorthanded. You are who you are. I feel pretty good about who the Celtics are right now. I could not say that for the longest time.

[LarBrd33]

If I'm coaching Orlando I probably realize that Dwight is severely limited by Perkins.  Dwight will get his points on put-backs, transition points and when Boston has lapses in team defense.... but posting up Dwight aint gonna work if Perk keeps shutting him down.

HOWEVER...   I probably start giving Rashard Lewis 40 shots a night.   Boston has no answer for him with KG out.  He's too tall and quick and there is no way Scal or Baby can stop him.  From what I can tell, Rashard has owned us when given the opportunity.   He can easily shoot over those guys, because of his height... and he can easily drive on them because of his quickness.    I hate Rashard (didn't even like him when he played out here in Seattle... I thought he was an overrated soft bum), but to me this is a clear advantage that Orlando should be exploiting. 

[Redz]

Common sense might suggest "Yes" but I say otherwise.

If Orlando comes out on an 8-0 run to start Game Six, then momentum from last night is nothing. Plus, they're playing at home.  However, it will really be up to Orlando's acumen and mental toughness. 

I'd also just like to point out that after the C's cameback and stunned the Nets after Game 6 in '02, newspapers and radio hosts were saying that the Nets were dead and the series was over.  We all know how that series ended so we should heed that warning.

Exactly, thank you, Donoghus. The Celtics are benefitting from last years championship experience and their collective will is going to get us to the next round. Unfortunately, Cleveland is on another level and we are still shorthanded. You are who you are. I feel pretty good about who the Celtics are right now. I could not say that for the longest time.

The Celts have been just as adept at blowing leads, as they have been at making comebacks all year long.

In short, WHO KNOWS?

[Cman]

Per Redz, I expect another battle (ie: Orlando ain't gonna roll over).

Per LarBrd33, I think that Orlando's game plan will be to get Rashard the ball, and try to hit the 3s early on.  If they can do that with any consistency, then it will open up things more for Dwight.

I probably start giving Rashard Lewis 40 shots a night.   Boston has no answer for him with KG out.  He's too tall and quick and there is no way Scal or Baby can stop him.  From what I can tell, Rashard has owned us when given the opportunity.   He can easily shoot over those guys, because of his height... and he can easily drive on them because of his quickness.