Why didn't we consider the BIRDMAN?

[MattG12]

For the same reason Marbury won't be signed.  Danny idiot-proofed the roster.  Andersen may be past his baggage.  But I doubt Danny would take a chance on anybody with issues...Tony Allen notwithstanding.

I don't think that's the reason... Tony Allen, JR Giddens, Ricky Davis, tried to get Allen Iverson, looked at Birdman, looked at Marbury, Gary Payton, Vin Baker(I don't know if Danny was here yet). We've taken on plenty of questionable characters over the years.

[jdpapa3]

The kid has looked phenomenal in his short minutes.

In his short minutes, POB has led the team in turnovers per minute (7.0 per 36) and fouls per minute (11.8 per 36), both by a large margin.  He's also been atrocious defensively.  I'd label him something as less than phenomenal.

ya i dont get this, he had a good alley opp. WEEEE.

his negitives, as roy pointed out, have far outweighed his alley opps and his decent turnaround jumpshot.

Why haven't we cut him then? There is obviously a gameplan that Ainge has. He said in the summer that he was not satisfied with our big man situation. This will be addressed. They looked into the Birdman situation and didn't like it. This guy lets his mom live in a trailer park or something. He seems like scum to me.

[crownsy]

The kid has looked phenomenal in his short minutes.

In his short minutes, POB has led the team in turnovers per minute (7.0 per 36) and fouls per minute (11.8 per 36), both by a large margin.  He's also been atrocious defensively.  I'd label him something as less than phenomenal.

ya i dont get this, he had a good alley opp. WEEEE.

his negitives, as roy pointed out, have far outweighed his alley opps and his decent turnaround jumpshot.

Why haven't we cut him then? There is obviously a gameplan that Ainge has. He said in the summer that he was not satisfied with our big man situation. This will be addressed. They looked into the Birdman situation and didn't like it. This guy lets his mom live in a trailer park or something. He seems like scum to me.

because he's a 7 foot 20 year old with decent offensive moves, and those are hard to aquire for the min salarey in this league.

No one is denying he has potential (which is why hes on the roster) but he's clearly not anywhere near game ready atm. Thats why Doc calls him out in the media for lack of hustle and KG got in his face for not trying at practice not 2 weeks ago.

also, try a little research before sprouting off like anderson just "lets his mom live in a trailer park like a scumbag"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=Andersen-080511

little more complicated than what your implying. but don't let facts get in the way of a good character assiaination to try to prove a point, i always say.

[MattG12]

The kid has looked phenomenal in his short minutes.

In his short minutes, POB has led the team in turnovers per minute (7.0 per 36) and fouls per minute (11.8 per 36), both by a large margin.  He's also been atrocious defensively.  I'd label him something as less than phenomenal.

ya i dont get this, he had a good alley opp. WEEEE.

his negitives, as roy pointed out, have far outweighed his alley opps and his decent turnaround jumpshot.

Why haven't we cut him then? There is obviously a gameplan that Ainge has. He said in the summer that he was not satisfied with our big man situation. This will be addressed. They looked into the Birdman situation and didn't like it. This guy lets his mom live in a trailer park or something. He seems like scum to me.

because he's a 7 foot 20 year old with decent offensive moves, and those are hard to aquire for the min salarey in this league.

No one is denying he has potential (which is why hes on the roster) but he's clearly not anywhere near game ready atm. Thats why Doc calls him out in the media for lack of hustle and KG got in his face for not trying at practice not 2 weeks ago.

also, try a little research before sprouting off like anderson just "lets his mom live in a trailer park like a scumbag"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=Andersen-080511

little more complicated than what your implying. but don't let facts get in the way of a good character assiaination to try to prove a point, i always say.

Tommy Point for the article... I was looking for that. At least some people on here look into the facts before they go on trashing on people.

[jdpapa3]

I remember reading the article and that's what I got out of it. From what I remember it just sounds like a dysfunctional family situation and I shouldn't have said what I did. Sorry.

[Fan from VT]

I wouldn't say he's a questionable character.  The guy had a substance problem.  His performance was an issue only one year when he was drinking too much.  He's never had coach conflicts, he plays hard, he's not out getting DUI's.  I view him as Marcus Camby light.

Ummm, he was suspended from the league for a year, because he was using controlled substances (It had to be pretty hard drugs for that particular suspension).  I am not saying he is a bad guy or anything, but the guy clearly has or had some issues.  Whether he has a true addiction, or he just had trouble making smart decisions, it absolutely, positively, constitutes "questionable character" in my book.  Now, it by no means precludes him from being signed, but it absolutely counts as a strike against him.

yeah this is an interesting question, especially considering the rash of DUI's in the league lately. You could easily argue that drinking and driving is a much worse crime than using hard drugs as it puts a tremendous amount of other people at risk for their lives, but somehow DUI's get largely overlooked as "character issues" while weed or coke are considered major strikes. Part of it is a league thing: does the league even discipline for DUI's? Redick has one, but no one brought that up as a "character issue" in the recent Redick Trade Rumor forum.

[xmuscularghandix]

The Birdman probably wanted to wear 33.