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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2008, 10:05:10 AM »

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I don't want to put words in any body's mouth but I think the OP was using the "they don't want it anymore" phrase as a figure of speech.

I don't think he or anyone else honestly believes the Celtics don't want to win a championship anymore. It's just more as thats what they're play looks like.

Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2008, 10:14:04 AM »

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In my humble opinion..........I disagree with the subject line.

I think they want it too much


a little less emotion and more execution and I think they would be much better off. 

There were a lot of road wins this year in which the Celtics systematically took apart the opponents.  The Celts have a great system; players and coach all need to execute within it.
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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2008, 11:12:25 AM »

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In my humble opinion..........I disagree with the subject line.

I think they want it too much


a little less emotion and more execution and I think they would be much better off. 

There were a lot of road wins this year in which the Celtics systematically took apart the opponents.  The Celts have a great system; players and coach all need to execute within it.

Agreed. They arent passing like they were because people are trying to do it themselves. Ball movement has been horrible.

Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2008, 11:51:52 AM »

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I don't want to put words in any body's mouth but I think the OP was using the "they don't want it anymore" phrase as a figure of speech.

I don't think he or anyone else honestly believes the Celtics don't want to win a championship anymore. It's just more as thats what they're play looks like.

Thanks for the understanding and the proper interpretation.
I was going to attempt yet a third try at explaining myself adequately to the other forum readers, but then when I saw the Globe this morning and read Dan Shaughnessy's article http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/05/11/another_disturbing_roadblock/
I knew you and I were not the lone rangers.

Thanks again.

And for the record, I have been a staunch Celtic supporter since there was a number 6 running up and down the court and I will continue to be one following the likes of #34 and #5.

If anyone wants to know what "wanting it" is all about, all they need do is reference one game 7 on the road in LA when Russ won his eleventh.

It just came to my mind, as I typed the above, that #5 is trying to emulate #6 and #34 is trying to do the same with #33. So close, and yet so far away.

Interesting.

Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2008, 02:36:19 PM »

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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2008, 03:06:15 PM »

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In my humble opinion..........I disagree with the subject line.

I think they want it too much


a little less emotion and more execution and I think they would be much better off. 

There were a lot of road wins this year in which the Celtics systematically took apart the opponents.  The Celts have a great system; players and coach all need to execute within it.

SShorefan.... we need to have a TP battle, you have 1 less post than me and 2 more TP's, I think we should see who has the most by 600...I'm gonna even throw ya one as a sign of good faith!
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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2008, 03:18:40 PM »

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Right before the playoffs,someone started a thread or a post,talking a lot about how we do not know what to expect from this newly formed Celtic team,and congradulating them,on their great season.But the thread mainly was stating,they are the unknown,our first experience with this new group in the post season,and no matter what happens,we still feel they have overachieved their season together.I can't remember who exactly posted it,but it was one of the best post ive read since ive been a member on CB...it really brings  me back in my mind,when i start being negative about this team.It sort of grounds me back to not expecting to much and being thankful for all the good(wins)we receive.Maybe next season,if we don't win it all this season,i might expect more from this group.Idon't think its a matter of they don't want it bad anymore,maybe they are still putting pieces of the puzzle together,and maybe they will figure it out in this playoffs,before its to late. 

Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2008, 03:23:41 PM »

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In my humble opinion..........I disagree with the subject line.

I think they want it too much


a little less emotion and more execution and I think they would be much better off. 

There were a lot of road wins this year in which the Celtics systematically took apart the opponents.  The Celts have a great system; players and coach all need to execute within it.

SShorefan.... we need to have a TP battle, you have 1 less post than me and 2 more TP's, I think we should see who has the most by 600...I'm gonna even throw ya one as a sign of good faith!

Right back at ya!!!    ;D
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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2008, 03:40:11 PM »

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Advice for those who have lost perspective on how to approach the marathon playoff run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M82CUd6isyY

Lest we forget the other team has equal right to WANT IT too.
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They simply don't want it anymore (Part II) !
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2008, 02:44:55 PM »

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I started a similar thread late Saturday night after the blowout loss to the Cavs in Game 3 and took a lot of heat for it. Many of you jumped all over me for my commentary. Those interested can find it originally posted early a.m. on May 11th.

I have a couple of points to make here if you'll allow me to.

1) I'd like your (fellow Celtic fans) input on some things. Since I have, and still do play ball, (though obviously nothing at all like the level of these two teams) I can take a bit of personal experience to put behind my words.

Let me preface this by saying, I love Kevin Garnett. I am thrilled with what he has brought to this team. I have watched 99% of all Celtics games for years - including last year - so please don't question my loyalty.

However, on the statement dunk last night when LeBron posterized KG, here is what I saw. Someone tell me I am wrong.
Pierce got picked off of the play; then Posey, who was the second man to defend, went inside as Lebron faked and drove outside and past him. That left KG one on one with LeBron. What I saw from there I didn't like. I saw KG look at LeBron, then immediately get out of the way, allowing LeBron to make his crowd raising slam. Why didn't the Defensive Player of the Year challenge him? You know how anytime a shot is put up towards the basket after a whistle is blown that KG jumps and intercepts the ball not allowing it to go in? Kinda of like a mini-statement.

Why do you not get in James' face, give him a hard foul and say, "not on my watch". Kinda like a major-statement of this is who we are!

Is it because LeBron is too big and strong and Garnett didn't want to get hurt. Or maybe I'm thinking he could have challenged when in reality he was not in good position to. Since when I play, I play the guard position, perhaps my expectations are too high for the big man. I don't know. But I can tell you I found myself uttering more than a few words at the television and somewhere in there could be heard the term chicken-hearted, etc. Though trust that it was more emotional than that.

2) I realize the game was close throughout until the last 3-4 minutes, but will some one of the three-petes please, please take control. It probably has to be PP because Ray is being shut down by whats-his-name (any one will do), and whenever KG gets the ball down low he gets paralyzed and can't go to the hoop. So by default it must be Paul. If that's the case, they better take some of the pressure off of him on the defensive end and let him use his energy on the offensive side. Please.

3) Right now, this team is in a mental whirlwind of bad karma. It will be very difficult for them to come out of this series alive, home court or not. They can't see the forest for the trees right now and there is nobody there to lead them out. What happened to Ubuntu? With only one day between games it will be difficult, if not impossible to climb out of the mental rut they are in. And with Doc juggling the players around as he has done since the playoffs began, it only leads to more discontinuity.

3) The glass half full people will say that we're 2-2 with home court advantage. The glass half empty people blame Doc, Danny or anyone wearing green and say that we're done.

The realist that I believe I am, says it will be difficult. They will only come through this series by drawing on the intestinal fortitude and will that they had demonstrated throughout the season, against tougher teams than Cleveland. But, with the confusion coming from the coaching staff (which players get minutes?) and the confusion coming from the players (as I said they are in a bad mental state right now) we fans should not be surprised if they don't pull it out.

4) One more thing: Don't anyone tell us that this team hasn't been playing together long enough to establish a good rhythm, etc. They've been together all season AND the Cavs team that they are playing has barely been together half as long.

Now Paul, brush your ass off, get back out there and lead this team. Show us that you really do want it!



Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2008, 12:00:03 PM »

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Amazing as it may be, this team has spoken. Unfortunately, I've heard their voice loud and clear. Their play has spoken volumes all season long and it is no different now.

If you listen as well, you'll no doubt agree. They've already accomplished all that they set out to for this season.
NBA best regular season record.
Defensive stat leader in numerous categories for the regular season.
Defensive Player of the Year.
Two all NBA players.
Sweep of the Texas triangle.
Put up a 25-5 record against the almighty Western Conference.
Put an end to the regular season winning streak of the Rockets that no other team could lay claim to.

Yes, those are just a few of the highlights of this past season. And we loved every minute of it.

Well, I'm sorry to report that it's over for us now. The fire is gone. The "gotta want it" is gone. Why? Because they already accomplished everything they
wanted to.

When they "wanted it" they went into the most hostile NBA environment and out-toughed the tough Utah Jazz on their home floor in SLC.
 
When they "wanted it", this team could whip any team in the league, at home or on the road.

When they "wanted it" this same team went into Detroit early in the season and showed the Pistons who we were.

When they "wanted it", they showed the Champion Spurs they could whip 'em with or without KG.

When they "wanted it", they showed those Showtime Lakers they could whip 'em in Boston or LA.

Yes, they've done all that. But it's all over now.

Atlanta ?????
Cleveland ?????

Sorry. You can talk all you want about playoff atmosphere, but the Hawks and Cavs couldn't warm this  team up when they "wanted it".

Unfortunately, I've heard their voice loud and clear.

They simply don't want it anymore.

Don't blame the coaches.
Don't blame the refs.
Don't talk of match-ups.
Don't talk of conspiracy.

Just watch when they play.................and listen to what they say.





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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2008, 12:27:06 PM »

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In my humble opinion..........I disagree with the subject line.

I think they want it too much


a little less emotion and more execution and I think they would be much better off. 

There were a lot of road wins this year in which the Celtics systematically took apart the opponents.  The Celts have a great system; players and coach all need to execute within it.

SShorefan.... we need to have a TP battle, you have 1 less post than me and 2 more TP's, I think we should see who has the most by 600...I'm gonna even throw ya one as a sign of good faith!

Scrolling up I came upon this posting.  Looks like you've got me on both postings and big time on TPs!!!   WELL DONE!!   :)
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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2008, 12:31:39 PM »

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Really, So i guess after Bill Rusell won his championship with the Celts he had no desire to win another. That must be why he has 11 championships. Winning won championship does not mean that these players are just going to lay down there careers and competitive mentalities.
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Re: They simply don't want it anymore!
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2008, 12:37:01 PM »

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What were you thinking?    
Did Mike Bibby start this thread?

LOVE IT the Bibby statement!! haha..