State of our cap

[boscel33]

As long as Grant doesn't get a really high offer from someone, you re-sign him.  Boston wasting assets last summer cost them a shot at the title this year.  At some point the team needs to stop acting like they are rebuilding and start acting like they actually want to win a championship.

While in general I agree about maintaining assets, that's counterproductive if we have to give up assets to dump Grant in a year.  He's just not that good.

That's why signing him to a two year deal with a team option might be our best bet.   Give him well more than he deserves to use him as an expiring contract this year or next.  Say, 2 years, $40 million, 2nd year is a team option.  That's much better than, say, 4 years, $60 million.

Dang, signing GWill to 2 @ 20 just seems wrong.  Can we trade him for Sabonis, LOL, because he's making less than that and is a far better player IMO!

[JBcat]

I am of the opinion if we keep Grant who I really like as a player and actually met him, it’s going to severely limit us getting another point guard, where I feel we are dangerously thin at. Brodgon hasn’t been that great at defending point guards and may be better suited guarding shooting guards, I like Pritchard too but a similar problem. So that leaves White who is a great defensive player at the point guard position. Without being able to use the MLE would people be fine with basically that guard depth if we retain Grant? We could possible sign and trade Grant for guard help as well, but that also puts us in the same 2nd apron conondrum. Though on the flip side Grant is an excellent 4th big to have given Horford’s age and Porzingas and R Williams injury concerns. At a moments notice we could be thin with bigs without Grant around.

[Vermont Green]

I am of the opinion if we keep Grant who I really like as a player and actually met him, it’s going to severely limit us getting another point guard, where I feel we are dangerously thin at. Brodgon hasn’t been that great at defending point guards and may be better suited guarding shooting guards, I like Pritchard too but a similar problem. So that leaves White who is a great defensive player at the point guard position. Without being able to use the MLE would people be fine with basically that guard depth if we retain Grant? We could possible sign and trade Grant for guard help as well, but that also puts us in the same 2nd apron conondrum. Though on the flip side Grant is an excellent 4th big to have given Horford’s age and Porzingas and R Williams injury concerns. At a moments notice we could be thin with bigs without Grant around.

I think you talked yourself around to exactly the point.  You are not going to have perfect depth at any position but right now, I am a lot more comfortable with our depth at combo guard (we don't really use a traditional PG) than I am at PF/C (combo big?).  Grant is going to be Grant, a reliable, versatile bench player that can back up both PF and C (although with our current roster, he likely won't be needed much at C).  He can even play a little wing but I don't like him in that role.  I suspect he will continue to hit 3s (so long as they are from the corner) as well as defend and rebound.  He is not a "rim protector" but does everything else you need from a bench big.  Hopefully, he is working on his FTs.

A lot is going to come down to what kind of value he has on the "market".  I think this is going to work out for the Celtics.  His value is going to be a lot less than he may have hoped and the Celtics will get him on a reasonable deal.  Probably both sides will be happy to keep the deal short, Grant so that he can have another shot at FA as a UFA in the near future, and the Celtics so that they can keep their options open.  I will be shocked if his deal is anywhere close to $20M, even if it is short, but I am very often shocked by the contracts some players get.

[Who]

A lot is going to come down to what kind of value he has on the "market".  I think this is going to work out for the Celtics.  His value is going to be a lot less than he may have hoped and the Celtics will get him on a reasonable deal.

Yeah, I thought last season went badly for him.

I liked the gamble he took passing on the offer last summer but things did not work out well for him. They were going okay until midseason when his shot fell off which may be (likely is) related to the wrist injury he suffered.

But he went from rotation regular to DNP in favour of Hauser. Then he continued to be benched early in the playoffs. He barely played against ATL. Only 2 games with real PT. In and out of rotation against PHI. Only 3 games with double digit minutes. DNP again to start MIA series before playing a big role the rest of the way. Playing okay but not well against MIA.

So the whole second half of the regular season was a bust for him value wise and the playoffs did little to repair that value given he was in and out of the team for the first 14 games (5 double digit PT games, 5 DNPs, 2 games under 5min and 1gm at 8min) and only played okay in the final 6 games when he got 25mpg. Not enough to restore confidence / value.

So Grant is not coming into FA off of the strong season he hoped to have. Or even the solid season he hoped to have. It was a disappointing season. And his value will have taken a hit.

I see his value as closer to the $10-15mil range heading into FA rather than the $15-20mil he was hoping for last summer. I thought had a legit shot at the $15-20mil because of the cap increases but I don't think his season went well enough for him to get that payday.

We should be able to make that work and we should be confident that we can trade that contract further down the road if we need to in order to make the cap numbers work. That should be a tradeable contract. I like our odds. Not a sure thing but I like our odds.