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Re: Celtics Big addition next year
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2023, 09:13:25 AM »

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7'4" 285 pounds. 20 years old. Like Danny played basketball,  also Hockey and Volleyball.  A good all around athlete. Throws a baseball better than many can.

 20 ppg and 12 rpg 2bpg and shooting 73% from the line. 60% from the fields.  Zach Edey players of the year. Brad would be insane to pass on him with our first 2nd round pick.

 This kid is unstopable down low and getting better quickly.

I agree that this draft the Cs really should come away with a big man prospect. I would also go as fare as to package Pritchard and 2nd round pick to target one. I do like Edey and think he will carve out a NBA career some where but I do not think Boston will be that place. While he is a much better prospect then Taco they both are super sized bigs who for better and for worst dictate how their team must play in order to cover for their lack of mobility and take advantage of their size. A less established rebuilding team or one that already play with a less mobile 5 could find Edey to be a 2nd round steal. As for Boston I think this draft has a few better stylistic fits who will have a more seamless transition into the Celtics system.

Adem Bona UCLA, his stat line is underwhelming but he plays with a great motor and has elite mobility for a 5. He started playing basketball older then most players and is still early in his development but he has the physical tools and the motor to be developed into an elite defensive 5. He would be destine for a season in Maine but could pay off big time long term.

Azuolas Tubelis Arizona, he strikes he as a very Muscala like well rounded big who will be able to pass and shoot well enough to incorporate into the Celtics offensively. Defensively while he will never be a high ceiling defender he does currently play PF and appears to move well enough to not be a liability on that end of the court.

Trayce Jackson-Davis Indiana, he is a statistical outlier who is putting up numbers comparable to senior year Tim Duncan (pts, rb,blk,and ast). While he doesn't have elite size or athleticism he is incredibly productive and in many ways physically reminds me of Al Horford. Like AL he would have been a PF 20 years ago but not finds himself as a 6'9 versatile 5. He is an older prospect but one that I am confident is NBA ready and could actually push Muscala and Kornet for minutes as a rookie.

Hunter Dickinson Michigan, I am less enthusiastic about his ceiling but see him as a solid long term backup in the Aaron Baynes mold. His ability to shoot 3s could make him a nice fit playing Kornet's role but with a much stronger frame.       

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Re: Celtics Big addition next year
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2023, 09:45:36 AM »

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The 2023 free agent pool doesn’t look good:

Centers

LaMarcus Aldridge (37)
Tony Bradley (24)
Vernon Carey Jr. (21)
Willie Cauley-Stein (29)
DeMarcus Cousins (32)
Ed Davis (33)
Derrick Favors (31)
Enes Freedom (30)
Tristan Thompson (31)
Killian Tillie (25)
Hassan Whiteside (33)

And Power forward isn’t any better:

Carmelo Anthony (38)
Marquese Chriss (25)
Gary Clark (28)
Tyler Cook (25)
Michael Foster Jr. (19)
Juancho Hernangomez (27)
Serge Ibaka (33)
Paul Millsap (37)
Juwan Morgan (25)
KZ Okapala (23)
Jabari Parker (27)
Reggie Perry (22)
Isaiah Roby (24)
Luka Samanic (22)
Chris Silva (26)
Noah Vonleh (27)
D.J. Wilson (26)

A few are retreads we already kicked to the curb. Luka Samanic, might be the best option and I’m one who thinks we should sign him before someone else does. Vernon Carey is pretty much the only other player on those lists I would want in Green.

On the draft side of things, Lively coming out of Duke would be a great fit supporting or replacing Rob. No chance of getting him though. Nfaly Dante fits that description too, but he’s really raw on offense and he’s still learning how to play so there’s upside and he should be available for a 2nd round pick. He plays behind Ware who’s a likely lottery pick. The trouble is he’s not going to step in and help right away. Vukcevic and Dickinson have the experience, but Dickinson is probably close to his ceiling and a throwback like Edey. We should have rolled the dice on Poeltl if that’s what we need from the center position.

These are current free agents, correct? You’re not listing the ones that will be available after this season ends. There will be better players on the market over the summer.
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Re: Celtics Big addition next year
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2023, 09:57:45 AM »

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I'd settle for TL healthy all year.

Re: Celtics Big addition next year
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2023, 03:36:56 PM »

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 We need a third option on offense. Zach would give us that. Unstoppable in the half court. Hes more like Yao ming than u think.  Stronger than Yao, not the shooter though.

 You can't move this kid. Hes 20! Zack,  Horford,  Tatum,  Brown, and any PG we have and it will be raining wide open threes.

 Nobody can handle this 285 pound kid one on one. Its such an easy decision for a team that lacks any post game, and a team that desperately needs another big.
Zach Edey is not a #3 option on a title contender, as a rookie. Stop it
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Celtics Big addition next year
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2023, 05:44:31 PM »

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 We need a third option on offense. Zach would give us that. Unstoppable in the half court. Hes more like Yao ming than u think.  Stronger than Yao, not the shooter though.

 You can't move this kid. Hes 20! Zack,  Horford,  Tatum,  Brown, and any PG we have and it will be raining wide open threes.

 Nobody can handle this 285 pound kid one on one. Its such an easy decision for a team that lacks any post game, and a team that desperately needs another big.
Zach Edey is not a #3 option on a title contender, as a rookie. Stop it



 I didn't say day one. The fact is if hes being guarded by man, you throw it inside, he cant be guarded one on one by 95% of the leauge. 

 When he learns two more post moves he can dominate the paint.

Re: Celtics Big addition next year
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2023, 01:03:39 AM »

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 We need a third option on offense. Zach would give us that. Unstoppable in the half court. Hes more like Yao ming than u think.  Stronger than Yao, not the shooter though.

 You can't move this kid. Hes 20! Zack,  Horford,  Tatum,  Brown, and any PG we have and it will be raining wide open threes.

 Nobody can handle this 285 pound kid one on one. Its such an easy decision for a team that lacks any post game, and a team that desperately needs another big.
Zach Edey is not a #3 option on a title contender, as a rookie. Stop it



 I didn't say day one. The fact is if hes being guarded by man, you throw it inside, he cant be guarded one on one by 95% of the leauge. 

 When he learns two more post moves he can dominate the paint.
I would bet significant money he never is good enough to be a #3 option
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Celtics Big addition next year
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2023, 12:07:02 PM »

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Luka Samanic, might be the best option and I’m one who thinks we should sign him before someone else does.

I'll second this. At this point nobody they sign to the fifteenth spot is going to make a difference this season. Might as well take a flier on the 23-year-old reclamation project for Summer League and training camp by offering him a 1+1 at the minimum with next season non-guaranteed.