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Re: Lebron calls Celtics fans racist
« Reply #345 on: July 24, 2022, 08:53:01 PM »

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Re: Lebron calls Celtics fans racist
« Reply #346 on: July 25, 2022, 05:36:47 AM »

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edit: also, I'm not sure what this has to do with racism?

Everything in America is about racism today, didn’t you know? We certainly have no shortage of CCP and Kremlin officials online posing as Americans who would like to spread the idea that everything is about racism and no era has ever been more racist than today.

Edit: I just saw the post before this after reading the new posts in reverse otder. The boss has spoken. I will shut up about the hypocrisy of LeBron stating he values social justice while allowing his bread-and-butter sneakers to be made in Communist China. It’s a complicated issue, and I think I’ve illustrated that.

I will say one more time that it’s beyond infuriating that LeBron would use his platform to point out Boston. I have no doubt whatsoever that Cleveland (Ohio is among the most racist states I’ve heard stories about—you won’t find KKK in Massachusetts, but you will in Ohio!), Miami and Los Angeles have plenty of fans who use racial epithets just like Boston has fans who do so. Let’s hear about that too, LeBron.

Two things:
One, just a footnote on The Klan in Mass - the Klan has a historical presence in the Western, rural half of the state, although it never took in the state overall because of the strong Catholic culture, which is why Boston, while definitely having folks who are racist, never really gained a big Klan foothold*.

In other words, you're more likely to deal with (let's use something of a classic Boston example) someone who hates on Puerto Ricans because "hey it's what we [as 'Irish' people] do as a culture" than someone who wants to walk around wearing a sheet. Ain't the same thing, but it's not that different, either.

* https://www.westfield.ma.edu/historical-journal/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/KKK-in-MA-final.pdf

Second, and I think more germane to this thread, is that folks who are saying this is hypocritical run the risk of weakening their argument with their verbiage, because that's not what the word means.

An example of hypocrisy would be condemning Boston fans for their racism but defending those behaviours in another city. As far as I can see, James isn't doing that.

Hypocrisy is not pointing out that Boston has (some) racist fans while not simultaneously talking about every other city that has racist fans.
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