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Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2021, 01:04:35 AM »

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TP nickagneta, thank you for sharing.

It’s actually quite amazing things weren’t even worse for Boston given, Hayward’s graphic injury, Irving day-to-day antics, Ainge’s poor health and Stevens’ burnout. I think the Celtics organisation should be commended for its stability during a period which would have completely broken most teams.
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Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2021, 01:05:38 AM »

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The sad part to me is that Brad Stevens genuinely enjoys basketball and enjoys developing young men into leaders.

I credit him for staying after it. Even after he appeared to lose the lockeroom, he still coached and tried hard.
At least he's still pretty young. If he ever wants to get back into the coaching game, he'll have jobs waiting for him.

Can't help but remember among all these empathetic comments how angry we would get at Brad Stevens at times.
I was as harsh as anyone.

If he ever has that desire to get back into coaching, it looks to me like he might be happiest in college.
I'd love to see him revive Indiana Hoosiers basketball one day and put up a couple of red banners of his own.

That would be an awesome story as well, the Indiana kid coming home.
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Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2021, 01:23:58 AM »

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Well, I have an old fashioned record store---and we were busier than ever before because of Covid (people had nothing else to do, so they got back into collecting records)...Still didn't keep me from getting burnt out....It's been a tough couple of years for everyone. Staying home and obeying mandates is not normal, hopefully we get back to normal soon.
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Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2021, 10:07:43 AM »

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So at work today, I got the pleasure of meeting and talking to the wife of Depauw University men's basketball coach, Bill Fenlon. Fenlon was the head coach of one Brad Stevens when Stevens was playing ball in college.

I mentioned I was from Boston and she asked if I knew who her husband coached. I didn't. She said Brad and said they have been close ever since Brad finished college and went into coaching. She said they talk all the time.

I told her I was shocked he left coaching to become team president but she said she wasn't. She said the bubble burnt Brad out. She said he returned last year but his heart wasn't in it because of his awful experience coaching the team for all those weeks in the bubble.

Had a good long talk with her. Very nice, very classy lady who was in town to see her parents.

Anyway, thought that was interesting news. Hope you enjoyed the story.

Great insider stuff!

Thanks, Nick!




Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2021, 01:50:24 PM »

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Seems like Brad is a family man who needs to be able to have time in his own space.  Makes sense that the bubble was hard on him.

I guess the bubble was really difficult on a lot of people.
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Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2021, 06:22:32 PM »

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I don't think people out of the sports industry realize just how much time and energy people in the business work. I have two friends in college athletics. They never stop working. There is no vacation. There is no day offs. When I see my buddies they always have their laptop and no matter where we go, those laptops open up and they are working. 70-80 hour work weeks 52 weeks a year is normal.

You hear stories about film guys and coaches sleeping in their offices going over stuff all day and night. These aren't just glorifications to make these people look tough and committed. It's real. I have seen it firsthand for decades.

For those guys with kids, especially young kids, it's a major sacrifice. Brad seems like a committed family man. All that time in the bubble, constantly working. Constantly having to get tested. Constantly having to make sure his team was adhering to Covid protocols. And then having to do all that while a social reckoning was happening across America and affecting his players deeply.

I can completely understand him getting burnt out and not wanting to return. It would not surprise me if they told him he would be team president if he coached one more year as, it was pretty obvious Danny's time was drawing to a close.

We as fans most likely don't have the full story but I thought this tidbit interesting, especially as it came from someone close to Brad on a personal level.

Reminds me of the Tom Thibodeau stories:

    They connect with him on most days, even if they rarely see him, at least in person. His family understood when, over the years, he missed weddings, funerals, baptisms and birthday parties. He came home in late November during the N.B.A. lockout and took part in a family holiday for the first time in 20 years.

    Even then, he spent one afternoon teaching his nephew the proper defensive stance.

    Thibodeau was engaged once. He was in graduate school, an assistant at his alma mater, Salem State. Her name was Debbie, one of two Debbies that college teammates said he dated simultaneously, D1 and D2 at first for short.

    They canceled the wedding about six weeks out, and Thibodeau’s mother made him return what gifts the couple had received. Reasons for the engagement’s end varied, but John Galaris, Thibodeau’s boss and the athletic director at Salem State, said Thibodeau told him, “There’s no room in my life for a woman if I’m going to be a basketball coach.”


Seeing a lot of this in my industry too.

I've been advocating for achieving more by doing less for many years, and helped many a person fix their lives up a bit by learning to say no.

There are heavy, heavy diminishing returns on the amount of hours you spend working.

And the cost they come at increases exponentially too.

This means the divide between the two grows to absurd levels.

Happiness is different for different people, but for most of us, it's built on a healthy equilibrium and stark delineation between work and life.

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As for burning out during the bubble, and being tuned out by the team ... that's probably helluva vicious circle.

We're humans. Body language communicates a lot. And our attitudes are reflected in much more than just that. Even affects our interactions in small ways.

And when you notice someone's burnt out on the job, and going through the motions (no matter how hard they try) it will become more difficult to really listen to them. Or at the very least it'll affect their ability to inspire you.

Isolation is rough. It's like a jail sentence.

Thanks for sharing this Nick.

Just wish Brad would've spoken more about this. It's fine to fail sometimes, y'know. It really is. Especially when you own it.

Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2021, 09:11:24 PM »

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Well, I have an old fashioned record store---and we were busier than ever before because of Covid (people had nothing else to do, so they got back into collecting records)...Still didn't keep me from getting burnt out....It's been a tough couple of years for everyone. Staying home and obeying mandates is not normal, hopefully we get back to normal soon.

this is a cool bit of personal info, 86max! thanks for sharing. i like to dabble in vinyl from time to time; got a link to your online store? i’d rather give my business to a fellow C’a fan.

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2021, 10:13:50 PM »

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Beyond the bubble, I'm starting to wonder if the makeup of the team was another source of the burnout. A bunch of entitled young guys and stars that have been allowed to roam free and not held accountable for bad/dumb play would likely lead to a less than enjoyable team to coach - even if it was a product of his own making.
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Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
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With trading off M. Brown for worthless JR  …..CBS should consider a vacation for his brains

Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2021, 10:52:52 PM »

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Beyond the bubble, I'm starting to wonder if the makeup of the team was another source of the burnout. A bunch of entitled young guys and stars that have been allowed to roam free and not held accountable for bad/dumb play would likely lead to a less than enjoyable team to coach - even if it was a product of his own making.

Where's Thibs when we need him!!!

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Beyond the bubble, I'm starting to wonder if the makeup of the team was another source of the burnout. A bunch of entitled young guys and stars that have been allowed to roam free and not held accountable for bad/dumb play would likely lead to a less than enjoyable team to coach - even if it was a product of his own making.

Where's Thibs when we need him!!!
This group would tune out Thibs after about a half season.

Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2021, 11:01:42 PM »

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I do think Brad will get back into coaching eventually - most likely once his kids are done with high school and probably in the college game instead of the NBA.

Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2021, 12:14:31 AM »

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Seems like Brad is a family man who needs to be able to have time in his own space.  Makes sense that the bubble was hard on him.

I guess the bubble was really difficult on a lot of people.

Not everybody ….Lebron got what he , Silver , and Laker land wanted .  And good Contract ratings money Lakers bring in for the NBA and make Silver look like a hero . ::)

Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2021, 12:23:53 AM »

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Beyond the bubble, I'm starting to wonder if the makeup of the team was another source of the burnout. A bunch of entitled young guys and stars that have been allowed to roam free and not held accountable for bad/dumb play would likely lead to a less than enjoyable team to coach - even if it was a product of his own making.

Where's Thibs when we need him!!!
This group would tune out Thibs after about a half season.

Thibs would have them lined up on the bench and be playing tough with a lineup of Schroder, Pritchard, Nesmith, Hauser, and Bruno. Thibs doesn't take crap!

Re: Brad Stevens was burnt out as coach before last season.
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2021, 12:24:50 AM »

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I do think Brad will get back into coaching eventually - most likely once his kids are done with high school and probably in the college game instead of the NBA.

Maybe he'll be back at the end of November.