Poll: Do you expect us to use the TPE this season?

[gouki88]

If we're in a strong position (top 4 in the conference) and someone who fits the mould becomes available at the deadline (Nance, for example), I'd expect us to use it at the deadline.

Other than that, given how late we got the TPE, I see no reason why it would be used before next off-season

[Roy H.]

I think we'll wait until the off-season to use the Fournier one.

I'm wishfully hoping that we'll use the Thompson one during the season to bolster the front line, but that's not the most likely result.  I think that we're probably more inclined to ship out some expiring salary to try to get under the luxury tax line.

[sgrogan]

I think if someone is available that looks worthwhile we will go for it, otherwise Brad will keep his options open for next summer. He did say today that he has the green light from Wyc to go deeper into the tax if he thinks the opportunity is worth it.

Yeah, I watched the interview. What did you expect him to say? Of course he'd say ''yes''. Can't throw your boss under the bus in a public interview.

Not saying that Brad was necessarily lying. Just that it was probably a diplomatic response.

But Brad did give a some evidence that the TPE was open: they played hardball with Schroeder and offered only the mid-level taxpayer so that they would not be hard capped. If using the TPE was off the table, they probably would have made a higher salary offer to Schroeder. Any contending team could have offered Schroeder what we did (though some were too late and already used their exception).

Not true. Like you said, using the full MLE would have hard capped us at the apron. We literally couldn't have offered Schroder more than the taxpayer MLE without dumping ~3.9M first. To pit it another way, we'd have to somehiw dymp Dunn. As things stand right now, we are $212,558 over the apron.

The full tax payer MLE hardcaps us?

No, the full taxpayer MLE does not hard cap us. Any amount over the full taxpayer MLE hard caps us. If it helps, here are the actual figures.

Can't use the non-taxpayer MLE because we would be in the tax?

Non-taxpayer MLE = Standard MLE = Full MLE. We couldn't have used it cause it hard caps us. We would have had to somehow dump ~3.9M in order to end up below the hard cap after finalizing the transaction.

We use a portion of the tax payer MLE =< the non-tax payer MLE to not be hardcapped?

We used the whole taxpayer MLE which is a portion of the non-taxpayer MLE. In order to gain access to the remaining part of the non-taxpayer MLE, we have to dump some salary first (again, because of the hard cap).

Thanks.

So this amplifies using at the deadline.
If we keep it we have a 17M cap hold next season. If we exercise some of our rookie options (Nesmith, Lanfdod, Pritchard) it looks like we could open up around 17M in cap space if we renounce the TPE, depending on what we do with AL.

This all keeps circling back to spending money and paying the tax.