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Curious observation from Ainge’s Nets pick haul
« on: July 12, 2021, 02:16:26 AM »

Offline Ed Monix

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Something was surprising when I was looking at James Young’s Wikipedia page (he’s playing in Israel)…I’d forgotten that he was the first part of Ainge’s historical pick haul from Brooklyn.

What was interesting is how much late blooming talent has come after Young was chosen.

James Young was selected with 17th pick in the 2014 Draft

Tyler Ennis was the 18th pick
Gary Harris was the 19th
Rodney Hood was the 23rd
Clint Capela was the 25th
Bogdan Bogdanovic was the 27th
Kyle Anderson was the 30th
Joe Harris was the 33rd
Spencer Dinwittie was the 38th
Jerami Grant was the 39th
Nikola Jokic was the 41st
Dwight Powell was the 45th
Jordan Clarkson was the 46th
Khem Birch was undrafted
Langston Galloway was undrafted
Tyler Johnson was undrafted
Maxi Kleber was undrafted
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Re: Curious observation from Ainge’s Nets pick haul
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Just wondering why Tyler Ennis is on this list?

More notable is that of the draftees, only one is still on his original team (Jokic), and only three (Jokic, Harris, and Capela) signed second contracts with their teams.

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More notable is that of the draftees, only one is still on his original team (Jokic), and only three (Jokic, Harris, and Capela) signed second contracts with their teams.

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Re: Curious observation from Ainge’s Nets pick haul
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As a UK fan, I knew Young would be a bust..knock on him around Lexington was he was lazy & didn’t want to put out the effort.. I was hoping Ainge wouldn’t select him at 17 but when he did I shouted Noooooo
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As a UK fan, I knew Young would be a bust..knock on him around Lexington was he was lazy & didn’t want to put out the effort.. I was hoping Ainge wouldn’t select him at 17 but when he did I shouted Noooooo
I see what you did there (Bill Simmons fist-pump, "yessss").   ;D 

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If Ainge had been as good as people used to believe, we would have selected Giannis with the 13th pick in 2013, and dropped down to the bottom of the first-round in 2014 in order to select Jokic. Can you imagine if we had done that and still landed Jaylen and Jayson in 2016/2017? The 2020s would be resembling the 1960s…

Instead, we picked Olynyk and James Young…

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If Ainge had been as good as people used to believe, we would have selected Giannis with the 13th pick in 2013, and dropped down to the bottom of the first-round in 2014 in order to select Jokic. Can you imagine if we had done that and still landed Jaylen and Jayson in 2016/2017? The 2020s would be resembling the 1960s…

Instead, we picked Olynyk and James Young…

It would have been nice, but cherry picking missed later round picks (that other GMs all skipped on) seems like a fruitless endeavor. Look at the Suns, they completely blew their 2016 and 2017 drafts - selecting Bender at #4, Chriss at #8, and J Jackson at #4 - and they are in the NBA Finals. These are drafts where we selected Jaylen and Tatum.

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If Ainge had been as good as people used to believe, we would have selected Giannis with the 13th pick in 2013, and dropped down to the bottom of the first-round in 2014 in order to select Jokic. Can you imagine if we had done that and still landed Jaylen and Jayson in 2016/2017? The 2020s would be resembling the 1960s…

Instead, we picked Olynyk and James Young…

It would have been nice, but cherry picking missed later round picks (that other GMs all skipped on) seems like a fruitless endeavor. Look at the Suns, they completely blew their 2016 and 2017 drafts - selecting Bender at #4, Chriss at #8, and J Jackson at #4 - and they are in the NBA Finals. These are drafts where we selected Jaylen and Tatum.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing hey? Drafting is (historically) hard. Wasn't Kobe picked 13th?

I mean, it's not rocket science; you can't just calculate this stuff and be 100% correct all the time.

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If Ainge had been as good as people used to believe, we would have selected Giannis with the 13th pick in 2013, and dropped down to the bottom of the first-round in 2014 in order to select Jokic. Can you imagine if we had done that and still landed Jaylen and Jayson in 2016/2017? The 2020s would be resembling the 1960s…

Instead, we picked Olynyk and James Young…
Lol, c’mon. Criticism of Ainge for Kelly over Giannis is fair, but for not picking Jokic is absolutely not.
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Something was surprising when I was looking at James Young’s Wikipedia page (he’s playing in Israel)…I’d forgotten that he was the first part of Ainge’s historical pick haul from Brooklyn.

What was interesting is how much late blooming talent has come after Young was chosen.

James Young was selected with 17th pick in the 2014 Draft

Tyler Ennis was the 18th pick
Gary Harris was the 19th
Rodney Hood was the 23rd
Clint Capela was the 25th
Bogdan Bogdanovic was the 27th
Kyle Anderson was the 30th
Joe Harris was the 33rd
Spencer Dinwittie was the 38th
Jerami Grant was the 39th
Nikola Jokic was the 41st
Dwight Powell was the 45th
Jordan Clarkson was the 46th
Khem Birch was undrafted
Langston Galloway was undrafted
Tyler Johnson was undrafted
Maxi Kleber was undrafted

I was fist pumping right along with Bill Simmons when we took James Young, thought it was a great pick and I was glad at the time that we didn't go with Rodney Hood since he was having a strange vomiting's problem at multiple workouts.

Of the list I thought there was a chance we'd take Gary Harris which probably would have been a good pick.

I remember liking Capela but he was such and unknown coming out of Switzerland.

Kyle Anderson fell from his lukewarm college production compared to the 'Slow-mo' hype he was riding. Probably would have been a great pick at 16.

Couldn't believe Jerami Grant fell to 39 in that draft but there were doubts that his defense could translate out of the Syracuse zone. I figured he'd be a bust that he was drafted that low.

There was some pre draft hype around Khem Birch but clearly teams were unimpressed with his workouts.

Jokic and the rest of the second rounders weren't on my radar.

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As a UK fan, I knew Young would be a bust..knock on him around Lexington was he was lazy & didn’t want to put out the effort.. I was hoping Ainge wouldn’t select him at 17 but when he did I shouted Noooooo
I see what you did there (Bill Simmons fist-pump, "yessss").   ;D
I thought someone would catch that!
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