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Re: C’s Off-Season Acquisitions
« Reply #75 on: June 01, 2021, 09:47:40 PM »

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Sabonis is a borderline All-Star; a guy who is not good enough to be the clear cut best player on a good team, but nonetheless a very valuable player.  I think he's similar to Vucevic in what he should fetch in a trade.

I don't the Celtics realistically have the assets to get him.

Vucevic went for 2 1sts, Wendell Carter, and Otto Porter's expiring.

We have all of our own 1sts for a deal and an athletic but injury prone young big as the basis. Add in Tristan's expiring and another of the rookie deals and you have the salary.

I'm not saying it'll happen, but it's not far fetched.


What piece do the Celts have in line with Wendell Carter?  He was a top 10 pick just a couple years ago and was seen as still having potential.  Rob Williams?  I think considering Rob's health concerns and only 1 year left on his rookie deal, his trade value is not nearly as high as Carter's was.
Sabonis is also better and younger than Vucevic.  Sabonis just turned 25, has gotten better every year and is coming off a season in which he averaged 20.3 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 6.7 apg with a 60.1 TS%.  The man is a beast.  His value is a lot more than Vucevic given his age, his better efficiency, and his much better passing.

Sabonis is not better than Vuc
Considering the age difference, yes he is.

Better imo means right now.  If you wanna talk over time, sure

Re: C’s Off-Season FA Acquisitions
« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2021, 09:49:15 PM »

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That’s like saying Tatum is better than lebron

Re: C’s Off-Season Acquisitions
« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2021, 10:05:38 PM »

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Sabonis is a borderline All-Star; a guy who is not good enough to be the clear cut best player on a good team, but nonetheless a very valuable player.  I think he's similar to Vucevic in what he should fetch in a trade.

I don't the Celtics realistically have the assets to get him.

Vucevic went for 2 1sts, Wendell Carter, and Otto Porter's expiring.

We have all of our own 1sts for a deal and an athletic but injury prone young big as the basis. Add in Tristan's expiring and another of the rookie deals and you have the salary.

I'm not saying it'll happen, but it's not far fetched.


What piece do the Celts have in line with Wendell Carter?  He was a top 10 pick just a couple years ago and was seen as still having potential.  Rob Williams?  I think considering Rob's health concerns and only 1 year left on his rookie deal, his trade value is not nearly as high as Carter's was.
Sabonis is also better and younger than Vucevic.  Sabonis just turned 25, has gotten better every year and is coming off a season in which he averaged 20.3 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 6.7 apg with a 60.1 TS%.  The man is a beast.  His value is a lot more than Vucevic given his age, his better efficiency, and his much better passing.

Sabonis is not better than Vuc
Considering the age difference, yes he is.
Given Moranis said younger and better I don't think he was accounting for age difference. Vucevic is a much better scorer and shooter, and is a better rebounder. Sabonis is a better passer and defender. Personal preference really.
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Re: C’s Off-Season Acquisitions
« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2021, 10:10:16 PM »

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Sabonis is a borderline All-Star; a guy who is not good enough to be the clear cut best player on a good team, but nonetheless a very valuable player.  I think he's similar to Vucevic in what he should fetch in a trade.

I don't the Celtics realistically have the assets to get him.

Vucevic went for 2 1sts, Wendell Carter, and Otto Porter's expiring.

We have all of our own 1sts for a deal and an athletic but injury prone young big as the basis. Add in Tristan's expiring and another of the rookie deals and you have the salary.

I'm not saying it'll happen, but it's not far fetched.


What piece do the Celts have in line with Wendell Carter?  He was a top 10 pick just a couple years ago and was seen as still having potential.  Rob Williams?  I think considering Rob's health concerns and only 1 year left on his rookie deal, his trade value is not nearly as high as Carter's was.
Sabonis is also better and younger than Vucevic.  Sabonis just turned 25, has gotten better every year and is coming off a season in which he averaged 20.3 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 6.7 apg with a 60.1 TS%.  The man is a beast.  His value is a lot more than Vucevic given his age, his better efficiency, and his much better passing.

Sabonis is not better than Vuc
Considering the age difference, yes he is.

Better imo means right now.  If you wanna talk over time, sure
Why does this even mean? Of course you should consider over time. Vucevic doesn’t fit the the Cs timeline, Sabonis would. If you are going to give up assets, should be for a guy that can fit it with Tatum/Brown.

Re: C’s Off-Season Acquisitions
« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2021, 10:36:37 PM »

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Sabonis is a borderline All-Star; a guy who is not good enough to be the clear cut best player on a good team, but nonetheless a very valuable player.  I think he's similar to Vucevic in what he should fetch in a trade.

I don't the Celtics realistically have the assets to get him.

Vucevic went for 2 1sts, Wendell Carter, and Otto Porter's expiring.

We have all of our own 1sts for a deal and an athletic but injury prone young big as the basis. Add in Tristan's expiring and another of the rookie deals and you have the salary.

I'm not saying it'll happen, but it's not far fetched.


What piece do the Celts have in line with Wendell Carter?  He was a top 10 pick just a couple years ago and was seen as still having potential.  Rob Williams?  I think considering Rob's health concerns and only 1 year left on his rookie deal, his trade value is not nearly as high as Carter's was.
Sabonis is also better and younger than Vucevic.  Sabonis just turned 25, has gotten better every year and is coming off a season in which he averaged 20.3 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 6.7 apg with a 60.1 TS%.  The man is a beast.  His value is a lot more than Vucevic given his age, his better efficiency, and his much better passing.

Sabonis is not better than Vuc
Considering the age difference, yes he is.
Not even the age difference.  He is a more efficient scorer and significantly better passer.  I think he is probably a better defender as well.  If I could have either guy for just 1 season, I'd choose Sabonis without giving it a 2nd thought even though Vucevic has more range.  Sometimes more range isn't a good thing though as Vucevic actually has a below average TS%, while Sabonis is pretty decently above league average because Sabonis takes way more shots around the basket (which also draws him a lot fouls). 
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