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Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« on: December 21, 2020, 08:11:33 AM »

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With the uninspired play of the preseason and the question marks on the Celtics bench I really hope the Cs kick the tires on Kaminsky or to a lesser extent Hollis-Jefferson.

  Kaminsky particularly seems like a player who could boost the offense off the bench. Where Theis,Thompson and Time Lord will not be able to play together this season Kaminsky's shooting would allow him to play along side a big and give the Cs a different look.

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Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2020, 08:24:04 AM »

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They are too tall for Ainge liking..he likes the little guys lol..but u got some vets who are out there like RHJ, Kaminsky, Gerald Green, Ellerson, Ersan Illaysosa & more..they are a lot better options than Semi, Waters, Edwards, Romeo, Green, and both Williams
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Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 08:31:30 AM »

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Maybe if we could somehow combine them into one player. I think Langford and/or Nesmith could be better than RHJ this season.

I think Kaminsky rubs teammates the wrong way. Watching his teammates and their games I think he's a bit cocky but not very good. He plays his 10 minutes a game like he's still at Wisconsin dominating college, but he really doesn't contribute to winning on either side of the court. If you could somehow combine his skills with the personality of Grant Williams, who works hard to fit in around the other players, then I think he could be a pretty good 3-4th on the roster.

Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 08:54:01 AM »

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I don't know about RHJ. This team has enough problems scoring the ball for a limited offensive PF/SF to function well here.

I love Kaminsky. He can be a good bench big man. He was badly utilized in Charlotte by trying to turn him into a big stretch PF instead of a high post C. He showed good flashes of ability in both Charlotte and Phoenix. I do not understand why he is unsigned. He is a good offensive C with below average defense but his defense is not so bad that you cannot live with it.

Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 09:11:05 AM »

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I don't know about RHJ. This team has enough problems scoring the ball for a limited offensive PF/SF to function well here.

I love Kaminsky. He can be a good bench big man. He was badly utilized in Charlotte by trying to turn him into a big stretch PF instead of a high post C. He showed good flashes of ability in both Charlotte and Phoenix. I do not understand why he is unsigned. He is a good offensive C with below average defense but his defense is not so bad that you cannot live with it.

So he's Enes Kanter without the rebounding?

I find it ironic that people on this forun blast DAs drafts and want to sign everyone else's first round misses when they get cut.

Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 09:18:22 AM »

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We cannot have guys like these on this team because we need to keep room on the roster for a 5foot10 shooting guard that is the worst shooter on the team.
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Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2020, 09:21:20 AM »

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I don't know about RHJ. This team has enough problems scoring the ball for a limited offensive PF/SF to function well here.

I love Kaminsky. He can be a good bench big man. He was badly utilized in Charlotte by trying to turn him into a big stretch PF instead of a high post C. He showed good flashes of ability in both Charlotte and Phoenix. I do not understand why he is unsigned. He is a good offensive C with below average defense but his defense is not so bad that you cannot live with it.

So he's Enes Kanter without the rebounding?

I find it ironic that people on this forun blast DAs drafts and want to sign everyone else's first round misses when they get cut.

No because Kaminsky is a high post center who facilitates the offense with his outside shooting and above average passing. Kanter is a paint clogger. They serve different offensive functions.

Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2020, 09:24:25 AM »

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I don't know about RHJ. This team has enough problems scoring the ball for a limited offensive PF/SF to function well here.

I love Kaminsky. He can be a good bench big man. He was badly utilized in Charlotte by trying to turn him into a big stretch PF instead of a high post C. He showed good flashes of ability in both Charlotte and Phoenix. I do not understand why he is unsigned. He is a good offensive C with below average defense but his defense is not so bad that you cannot live with it.

So he's Enes Kanter without the rebounding?

I find it ironic that people on this forun blast DAs drafts and want to sign everyone else's first round misses when they get cut.

Kaminsky and Kanter are similar in that they are defensive liabilities but very effective offensive players. The intrigue in signing Kaminsky is his shooting for a 7'. A stretch 5 for 10 minutes a night would be a different look for this roster and one that could open up the offense.

For roster building I like the idea of picking up a couple early 1st busts as reclamation projects. Often times those types of players are drafted high and miss cast into roles beyond their abilities. Kaminsky has proven he is not a starter on a playoff level NBA team, that doesn't mean he can't be a change of pace offensive spark off the bench. RHJ has never developed a shot and isn't a starting NBA wing but has been very effective re cast as an super switching defensive 4.   
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Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2020, 10:03:26 AM »

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- RHJ cant shoot the 3

- Kaminsky D is bad and body has not improved since coming into the league

Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2020, 10:41:16 AM »

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Eh, I wouldn't be ecstatic with either of them, but I wouldn't be opposed to giving them a chance.
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Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2020, 10:58:16 AM »

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- RHJ cant shoot the 3

- Kaminsky D is bad and body has not improved since coming into the league

The question I would love to hear DA and/or BS answer

Who helps the Cs win more games

RHJ , Semi, or J Green (if we want to add my draft beef to this Desmond Bane can be added to this list)?

Kaminsky or Time Lord?
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Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2020, 11:09:09 AM »

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- RHJ cant shoot the 3

- Kaminsky D is bad and body has not improved since coming into the league

The question I would love to hear DA and/or BS answer

Who helps the Cs win more games

RHJ , Semi, or J Green (if we want to add my draft beef to this Desmond Bane can be added to this list)?

Kaminsky or Time Lord?

Semi is a much better defender and shooter than RHJ. Neither of them are very good, but Semi has carved out a consistent role as a corner shooter and one-on-one defender. RHJ is a meh defender and can only play the baseline role on offense, which is something CBS doesn't even use in his system much.

I could take or leave Javonte Green, but there is no denying that he has the ability to add energy to a game.

I'd take Time Lord over Kaminsky every day. They are similar as team defenders right now, but Williams brings a lot more havoc-wreaking defense. In my opinion, Williams is a much better team offensive player as well. Kaminksy can shoot, but he doesn't understand when to shoot and when not to. It messes with the flow of his team's offense. Williams does a good job keeping the ball moving from side to side and is an excellent lob threat.

Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2020, 11:32:02 AM »

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- RHJ cant shoot the 3

- Kaminsky D is bad and body has not improved since coming into the league

The question I would love to hear DA and/or BS answer

Who helps the Cs win more games

RHJ , Semi, or J Green (if we want to add my draft beef to this Desmond Bane can be added to this list)?

Kaminsky or Time Lord?

None of the players you listed (except maybe Time Lord if he improves) would make a difference in any wins. If those guys are playing enough minutes to make-or-break games, then the season is done anyway. May as well keep guys that know the system and are friendly with the Jays
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Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2020, 12:01:10 PM »

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This again?

Re: Why not Kaminsky or RHJ?
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2020, 01:35:33 PM »

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They are too tall for Ainge liking..he likes the little guys lol..but u got some vets who are out there like RHJ, Kaminsky, Gerald Green, Ellerson, Ersan Illaysosa & more..they are a lot better options than Semi, Waters, Edwards, Romeo, Green, and both Williams

Remember, Danny liked Kaminsky coming out.  He could wind up being added if they can find room.
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