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Re: For those who want Karl-Anthony Towns
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2020, 12:32:29 PM »

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Sometimes all it takes is the right guy to push the buttons.    By the logic of this post, we would have never traded for KG as he has achieved little in Minny.

That’s a poor comparison.

KG had dragged a dumpster fire to the playoffs repeatedly and won an MVP in Minnesota. He was a +/- on&off monster that ruled several advanced impact stats for years and was well recognized for elevating his teams. The only criticism of him was that he did not stack up to Kobe/Duncan when it came to taking over games due to his more team-oriented game and not being an elite post-up/isolation scorer.

KG was having a hall-of-fame career in Minny already before coming to Boston. Winning a chip here only solidified him as an all-time great, but it didn’t make him.

Sure he never made it to the finals with the Wolves, but he was up against the Duncan Spurs, Shaq/Kobe Lakers and also had teams like the Kings, Suns, Mavs, and Rockets all at one point in time boasting more talent than the sorry franchise he was playing for.

Can’t say that’s KAT‘s resume right now, so I just don’t see that as a valid argument to discussing KAT‘s lack of defensive prowess. And I am not saying that I am against trading for KAT...
To be fair he wasn't comparing them straight up (I mean KG is arguably a top 10 player of all time lol), he was comparing the situations of both players (yes KAT did have Butler, but the latter was a radioactive teammate in Minnesota, and KAT's teams before/after Butler are pretty bad) that dragged them down quite some in the eyes of the casual NBA fan. I think he's an All-NBA calibre player right now and could possibly reach fringe MVP levels if he fixes his defence (it'll be difficult, but it's not impossible as long as he has a stable organisation guiding his development), and that makes it worth going for him as long as the cost isn't insanely high (like Jaylen/Tatum+Smart+Langford+Grant+picks).
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Re: For those who want Karl-Anthony Towns
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2020, 06:17:12 PM »

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A line-up comparison shows just how bad defensively Towns is

Lineup 1 : Napier, Culver, Wiggins, Covington, Towns Def efficiency: 117.9 (the worst defensive rating in the history of the NBA)

Lineup 2: Napier, Culver, Wiggins, Covington, Dieng Def efficiency: 106.0 (near top 5 defence in the current NBA)

How many possessions/minutes are these lineups?

These are the top two line-ups by minutes played so large sample size

Re: For those who want Karl-Anthony Towns
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2020, 07:40:41 PM »

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A line-up comparison shows just how bad defensively Towns is

Lineup 1 : Napier, Culver, Wiggins, Covington, Towns Def efficiency: 117.9 (the worst defensive rating in the history of the NBA)

Lineup 2: Napier, Culver, Wiggins, Covington, Dieng Def efficiency: 106.0 (near top 5 defence in the current NBA)

How many possessions/minutes are these lineups?

These are the top two line-ups by minutes played so large sample size

Thank-you. This is interesting indeed. KAT also has one of the worst defensive real plus-minus in the NBA.