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Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« on: June 12, 2019, 10:46:16 AM »

Offline Silky

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Brooklyn wants Irving, Irving probably wants Brooklyn.

So lets help them get him.

Brooklyn has 35.8 mill in capspace plus a 21.1 mill caphold on Russell, meaning they have 57 million in committed salaries (after the Prince for crabbe deal)

so 52 mill in capspace.

Kryie will get 32 million, meaning they have only 20 mill left.

So

S&T Kyrie to Brooklyn for Dinwiddie and Musa
That save Brooklyn an additoinal 12.5 million, enough for them to sign another Max free agent (Butler, Thompson) (now 32.5mill available) they can then resign Russell.

Irving
Russell
Butler or Klay
Prince
Allen

Trade Dinwiddie, 20 and Musa to Detroit for Jackson and 15
Detroit saves some money and adds a PG who can shoot and defend, which is a HUGE need for them

Dinwiddie
Galloway
Kennard
Blake
Drummond

Trade Jackson,  Memphis Pick to Memphis for Conley
Memphis gets an expiring deal and gets their pick back so they can stop worrying about that.

Morant
Jackson
Anderson
JJJ
JV

Boston trades Irving, #20, #20 and Memphis first, gets Conley and 15

Boston gets a pg who is locked up for a couple years and keeps pushing. Gets to draft back to back at end of lottery.

Conley
Brown/Smart
Hayward
Tatum
Horford/Baynes

Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 10:47:43 AM »

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Would BKN want to keep Russell if they have Kyrie? Those two don't seem like they could play together at all.

Kyrie and D-Loading is a really bad defensive back-court.
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Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 11:19:30 AM »

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You would have to structure that as one large trade. There are rules against aggregating recently acquired salaries.


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Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 11:28:06 AM »

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You would have to structure that as one large trade. There are rules against aggregating recently acquired salaries.
Rules? There are rules to making trades? Are you sure about that? 😉😋

Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 11:29:59 AM »

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You would have to structure that as one large trade. There are rules against aggregating recently acquired salaries.
Rules? There are rules to making trades? Are you sure about that? 😉😋
I think you're on the wrong message board if you think trade rules apply here buster
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Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 11:39:15 AM »

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Why not just keep Dinwiddie?

Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2019, 11:42:03 AM »

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I'd be 100% on board with going all in on Irving and AD, if AD were to commit to Ainge for the long term. But as AD has let us know numerous times, he's not doing that. And Irving may have zero interest in coming back at all.

No way Ainge should gamble on the slim hope LAL and NYK use up all their cap space and AD gets stranded here. 

Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 11:56:11 AM »

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I like Conley, but there's little chance of getting him without trading Hayward. Unless there is more coming back our way, I'd rather keep Hayward.

If you followed this route, it'd be January before you could get Conley on the team..

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2019, 11:58:51 AM »

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Silky starts off with the right premise (screw Irving) but needs to put down the trade machine, it's a dangerous weapon in his hands.

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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2019, 12:36:05 PM »

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Would BKN want to keep Russell if they have Kyrie? Those two don't seem like they could play together at all.

Kyrie and D-Loading is a really bad defensive back-court.

reports are they want to. adn it makes sense, they can always trade russell during the season

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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2019, 12:36:36 PM »

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Silky starts off with the right premise (screw Irving) but needs to put down the trade machine, it's a dangerous weapon in his hands.
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2019, 02:17:53 PM »

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I think I've brought this up before and admit I'm a novice when it comes to the intricacies of the salary cap, but about a straight up sign and trade of Kyrie for Russell?

Re: Screw Davis, stay Celtics (trade)
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2019, 02:24:47 PM »

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I think I've brought this up before and admit I'm a novice when it comes to the intricacies of the salary cap, but about a straight up sign and trade of Kyrie for Russell?
Yes if the Nets are operating under the salary cap yes because then BYC rules don't apply so its a relatively straight forward trade.

Assuming Russell and the Nets are willing to do so. (IE the Nets plan to renounce him for a second FA along with Kyrie and the C's offer sweetners)

Edit: Wait I forgot Kyrie's salary was so low due to a pre-cap spike deal. I believe he'd have the BYC compensation rule apply on his new contract. Usually it doesn't apply when a max player gets another max deal!

So yeah its technically still possible but complicated as Kyrie would count as 20ish million outgoing for the Celtics and 30ish incoming for the Nets.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2019, 02:25:25 PM »

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I think I've brought this up before and admit I'm a novice when it comes to the intricacies of the salary cap, but about a straight up sign and trade of Kyrie for Russell?
Highly unlikely

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2019, 03:49:14 PM »

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I was interested until you traded the Memphis pick for a pretty expensive aging PG.

Creative tho